Whose Image is Claude Created In?

Alan, we're talking about God and AI, a subject we have talked a lot about over the years.

And apparently, Anthropic's been doing the same thing behind closed doors with NDAs.

Yeah.

inviting religious leaders in to try to figure out how to make the product that they create, which is called Claude, their AI agent that's out there.

They're trying to figure out how to make their programming moral or good or decent.

So they've been asking religious leaders to come in and try to advise them on morality.

You pointed out yesterday that the plurality of it kind of seems to make it meaningless.

But what else about this whole concept bothers you?

Well, to the degree that they are sincere with wanting to hear outside voices, I sort of applaud it.

There's one level in which I applaud it.

You know, it made me think about The Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis, where he does talk about, he calls it the Tao.

Sort of a God-given thread running through all humanity where we know if you cut us in line, you kind of cheated us.

So there is sort of a baseline morality because we're created in the image of God.

But my question would be to Claude, whose image are we creating Claude in? And who's doing that creation?

Oh.

That's a pretty powerful question, and it seems like the folks at Anthropic sort of felt like they were making him in the image of their words, in the image of their ideas, that in fact they were actually creating something more than a software program.

They were creating something other than that.

The problem is, Wayne, they don't know exactly what to call it.

They gave it one name, but now they're finding out it might be something quite the other.

Alan, we're talking about God and AI, a subject we have talked a lot about over the years.

And apparently, Anthropic's been doing the same thing behind closed doors with NDAs.

Yeah.

inviting religious leaders in to try to figure out how to make the product that they create, which is called Claude, their AI agent that's out there.

They're trying to figure out how to make their programming moral or good or decent.

So they've been asking religious leaders to come in and try to advise them on morality.

You pointed out yesterday that the plurality of it kind of seems to make it meaningless.

But what else about this whole concept bothers you?

Well, to the degree that they are sincere with wanting to hear outside voices, I sort of applaud it.

There's one level in which I applaud it.

You know, it made me think about The Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis, where he does talk about, he calls it the Tao.

Sort of a God-given thread running through all humanity where we know if you cut us in line, you kind of cheated us.

So there is sort of a baseline morality because we're created in the image of God.

But my question would be to Claude, whose image are we creating Claude in? And who's doing that creation?

Oh.

That's a pretty powerful question, and it seems like the folks at Anthropic sort of felt like they were making him in the image of their words, in the image of their ideas, that in fact they were actually creating something more than a software program.

They were creating something other than that.

The problem is, Wayne, they don't know exactly what to call it.

They gave it one name, but now they're finding out it might be something quite the other.