211. Understanding Programmatic Sustainability with Brian O'Kelley

Let's first highlight some "not so fun facts" about the topic covered in this episode, according to Anne Coghlan, COO of Scope3 in Digiday.  1. Programmatic advertising creates 100,000 metric tons of carbon dioxide every month in the United States, which is equivalent to burning about 11.2 million gallons of gas. 2. Serving 1,000 digital ad impressions uses the same amount of energy as doing a load of laundry in a washing machine — excluding the dryer — which produces a global average of 514.8 grams of CO2. Brian O'Kelley co-founder and CEO joins the programmatic meetup, a weekly community call to discuss the importance of sustainability and how to take actions from negotiating supply partnership down to optimizing site lists in your programmatic ad campaigns. Our favorite quote in this interview can be summarized down to " Don't buy crap!"   Take a listen to this hour long interview where the community got to hear first hand what sustainability is and how to take action; asking questions to Brian under the outstanding leadership of our co-hosts Manuela Cortes and Carlos Villanueva.  This episode is Repurposed because it is just so darn good! ## About Us The Programmatic Digest Podcast makes programmatic advertising, ad tech, and the future of digital media easier to understand. Hosted by Hélène Parker, the show brings together operators, traders, founders, and industry leaders for practical conversations about the technology, strategy, and people shaping our industry. Through Hélène Parker Consulting, we help media and ad-tech companies grow revenue while building stronger programmatic teams through sales growth, go-to-market strategy, workshops, consulting, and training. Access the programmatic training library: https://www.heleneparker.com/library ## Timestamp 00:00:20 - What do laundry and adtech have in common?   00:01:40 - At the beginning there were Ad Networks…  00:03:46 - Then there was an SSP and MySpace 00:06:15 - AdTech happens in Data centres, not in the cloud 00:08:25 - Why isn't programmatic more sustainable after 20 years?  00:10:01 - The challenges of programmatic are bigger than sustainability and the lightbulb moment 00:12:40 - Turning off Fraud and the impact on publisher's revenue 00:16:35 - BOK on Ads https://bokonads.com/  00:18:54 - PreBid vs. SPO 00:22:23 - Brian's POV on e-waste on the OTT/CTV topic 00:25:40 - What responsibilities Brands have to Fraud?  00:31:40 - Introducing Climate Shield: Don't' Buy Crap 00:35:40 - Don't allow resellers! A message for Pubs 00:23:40 - Is there one path more carbon efficient than the other?  00:40:10 - How Hélène take actions and apply Brian's Wisdom for programmatic buyers 00:45:34 - Ongoing Education, Check out Greenscape from BOKonads 00:48:10 - Lazy Loading on Publishers  00:53:10 - The Inconvenient Truth  Guest Information: - Brian O'Kelley - LinkedIn | BOKonAds - Scope3 | Resources Meet the Co-Host: - Manuela Cortes - LinkedIn - Carlos Villanueva - LinkedIn About Us: - Hélène Parker Consulting LLC - We are actively accepting clients - Website | LinkedIn | The Reach & Frequency Course - Programmatic Digest - Youtube | LinkedIn | Instagram Get this directly in your inbox weekly including more gems!  Let's keep in touch: Sign up to receive our weekly newsletter here: www.heleneparker.com/newsletter Join our next training program by signing up to our waitlist below: https://www.heleneparker.com/waitlist/