Jun 17, 2026 · 52 min · 23 segments
Welcome back to the show! In this week’s episode, I chat with Christian Martinez, a faculty member at Brooklyn College and several other CUNY schools, and Shannon Joyce, a newly minted master’s…
Christian MartinezGuest
John SchwabischHost
Shannon JoyceGuest
I mean, at least the universities I teach in don't have any rules yet about proper AI usage.
Like, what was that? Like, did you try AI tools or was it just like, did you find it better? Yeah.
more worth your time to just like stay away from those and just really kind of solve the problem in the code itself.
Well, I definitely, I feel like, you know, asking about my classmates, I feel like maybe all of us kind of used AI in different ways or maybe approach them in different ways.
The only time that I usually used it is to understand errors, because I noticed that if I tried to use that to learn how to code what I was just taught, I retained absolutely nothing.
And I noticed that if I was using it to try to... come up with a model or clean the data, I didn't even know what it was doing necessarily.
And actually it wasn't even necessarily doing exactly what I wanted it to do.
So if I was going to use it, it was in a way where I am prompting it very specifically with what I've already done and it was more so in a way to understand what I should be doing and not to have it do it for me so if I was having if I was having trouble like you know just aggregating the data in a certain way, or I wanted to visualize it in a certain way, I would maybe have it help me in that way.
But overall, and maybe this is just because of the way that R is structured, I prefer to build it myself because I know exactly which steps I took.
I feel a lot more connected to the whole code um, when I'm doing it rather than, um, you know, the steps told to me.
And I feel like I, I really, I really didn't use it all that much because it just didn't serve much of a purpose for me personally.
I mean, at least the universities I teach in don't have any rules yet about proper AI usage.
Like, what was that? Like, did you try AI tools or was it just like, did you find it better? Yeah.
more worth your time to just like stay away from those and just really kind of solve the problem in the code itself.
Well, I definitely, I feel like, you know, asking about my classmates, I feel like maybe all of us kind of used AI in different ways or maybe approach them in different ways.
The only time that I usually used it is to understand errors, because I noticed that if I tried to use that to learn how to code what I was just taught, I retained absolutely nothing.
And I noticed that if I was using it to try to... come up with a model or clean the data, I didn't even know what it was doing necessarily.
And actually it wasn't even necessarily doing exactly what I wanted it to do.
So if I was going to use it, it was in a way where I am prompting it very specifically with what I've already done and it was more so in a way to understand what I should be doing and not to have it do it for me so if I was having if I was having trouble like you know just aggregating the data in a certain way, or I wanted to visualize it in a certain way, I would maybe have it help me in that way.
But overall, and maybe this is just because of the way that R is structured, I prefer to build it myself because I know exactly which steps I took.
I feel a lot more connected to the whole code um, when I'm doing it rather than, um, you know, the steps told to me.
And I feel like I, I really, I really didn't use it all that much because it just didn't serve much of a purpose for me personally.
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