Tiffany SheltonGuest
Andrea Klein-ThomasHostBecause that's the thing, is that every time something has happened, I'm just like, "Okay, just try harder.
And l- earlier this year, I hit a wall where I was just like, I literally, the thought of an ounce more energy is gonna send me spiraling.
But then it was just like, well, I've always qualified ev- everything as an effort problem.
And so you make a differentiation between a discipline prob- problem and a structural problem.

Well, I think that's a certain delirium when even just the, the idea that a person like you and I would question discipline or the effort, but that's what we do.

I kind of, uh, I use the analogy, I don't know if you've ever seen a toddler that's really tired-
Because that's the thing, is that every time something has happened, I'm just like, "Okay, just try harder.
And l- earlier this year, I hit a wall where I was just like, I literally, the thought of an ounce more energy is gonna send me spiraling.
But then it was just like, well, I've always qualified ev- everything as an effort problem.
And so you make a differentiation between a discipline prob- problem and a structural problem.

Well, I think that's a certain delirium when even just the, the idea that a person like you and I would question discipline or the effort, but that's what we do.

I kind of, uh, I use the analogy, I don't know if you've ever seen a toddler that's really tired-
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