The Modern Hairstylist ™ Podcast
Jun 8, 2026 · 17 min · 12 segments
In this episode of The Modern Hairstylist Podcast, Hunter Donia and Jodie Brown explore a concept that hits differently depending on where you are in your business…
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Hunter DoniaHostJodie BrownGuest
So recently I got a TikTok and it reminded me of this concept called the Dunning-Kruger effect.

And it was- became, like, super relevant at the time because it never fails that when I teach classes, I will have some sort of somebody say, "Oh, I already knew this stuff," or, "This is just validating what I already know." And no offense to you, my friend, like, at all, okay? If you've had these feelings before, no tea, girl.

But, [laughs] but my rebuttal is, like, first off, I mean, I think there's always more to learn no matter what.

I, I, I myself, uh, when I was a brand educator, I took the same product knowledge class 10 times, learned something new from it every single time, was reminded of something every single time, broadened my ex- my, my understanding of it every single time, burned it into my memory every single time even better so it actually took effect, right? And I think that I, I heard about this concept and it really reminded me of these people.
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So recently I got a TikTok and it reminded me of this concept called the Dunning-Kruger effect.

And it was- became, like, super relevant at the time because it never fails that when I teach classes, I will have some sort of somebody say, "Oh, I already knew this stuff," or, "This is just validating what I already know." And no offense to you, my friend, like, at all, okay? If you've had these feelings before, no tea, girl.

But, [laughs] but my rebuttal is, like, first off, I mean, I think there's always more to learn no matter what.

I, I, I myself, uh, when I was a brand educator, I took the same product knowledge class 10 times, learned something new from it every single time, was reminded of something every single time, broadened my ex- my, my understanding of it every single time, burned it into my memory every single time even better so it actually took effect, right? And I think that I, I heard about this concept and it really reminded me of these people.