The Modern Hairstylist ™ Podcast
Jul 6, 2026 · 26 min · 9 segments
In this episode of The Modern Hairstylist Podcast, Hunter Donia and Jodie Brown break down something Hunter has been seeing come up again and again in his private coaching calls: stylists spiraling…
Hunter DoniaHostJodie BrownGuest
I had three conversations with stylists recently that made me realize that a lot of us will hear something from an expert or a peer and then immediately start to spiral about it and assign it to be the main thing that they need to fix or change.

And all too often, it is not actually the main thing that needs to be changed or there needs to be nothing done about it at all.

Particularly when you are in a space in which you are doing very well in your business overall, because when you hit the 100K plus mark as a hairstylist, you are normally in a space in which the one size fits all advice no longer applies to you it may be what got you there but it's not what's going to get you beyond that because your numbers are now much more nuanced you have a lot more volume to work with you have a lot more of a baseline of your own to work with instead of having to rely on the industries and other people's baselines to get you to where you are now the game now changes to making your own decisions for your own business.

And so the advice that even may, maybe I will say on this podcast or the things that I warn you about may not always apply to you based upon your own unique business.

And that's why I'm always trying to caveat with nuance as much as I possibly can while trying to speak to hundreds, if not thousands of stylists about one topic, right? And trying to make sure that everybody's included.

And so I think it's very important that you have like somebody like me who can have a second set of eyeballs on what you are talking about, what you're thinking about.

Look at your numbers, cut through the BS and figure out like what actually is it right now that is the main priority that you should not be distracted from.

And also that you are developing your own understanding of your own numbers and how that can kind of cut through a lot of the BS that you may hear or how you may be able to really understand if the advice given to you or the ideas that you have are actually relevant and important for you to listen to right now.

So this is all coming up because I do a lot of private conversations with my stylists because I feel like if I'm going to be a mentor, I have to actually know what the hell is going on in your business.

And I love how these conversations, first off, educate me about a lot of the things that are going on in the industry overall.

I love how they give me ideas that I can furthermore support other stylists with.

And a lot of the times it's really difficult to do that outside of a one-to-one.

But I had three conversations recently in which this was the case, in which we may have heard some sort of advice, whether it be from me or somebody else.

And I could tell how much it was like infecting their decision making and their focus in their business.

And I was like, it actually ended up being something that is totally not relevant and that you actually should be focusing in a different space.

Maybe it can help you self reflect a little bit, whether you've had these situations or adjacently, you're recognizing, hey, I've been really focusing in this one area, but it actually could be this other thing.
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I had three conversations with stylists recently that made me realize that a lot of us will hear something from an expert or a peer and then immediately start to spiral about it and assign it to be the main thing that they need to fix or change.

And all too often, it is not actually the main thing that needs to be changed or there needs to be nothing done about it at all.

Particularly when you are in a space in which you are doing very well in your business overall, because when you hit the 100K plus mark as a hairstylist, you are normally in a space in which the one size fits all advice no longer applies to you it may be what got you there but it's not what's going to get you beyond that because your numbers are now much more nuanced you have a lot more volume to work with you have a lot more of a baseline of your own to work with instead of having to rely on the industries and other people's baselines to get you to where you are now the game now changes to making your own decisions for your own business.

And so the advice that even may, maybe I will say on this podcast or the things that I warn you about may not always apply to you based upon your own unique business.

And that's why I'm always trying to caveat with nuance as much as I possibly can while trying to speak to hundreds, if not thousands of stylists about one topic, right? And trying to make sure that everybody's included.

And so I think it's very important that you have like somebody like me who can have a second set of eyeballs on what you are talking about, what you're thinking about.

Look at your numbers, cut through the BS and figure out like what actually is it right now that is the main priority that you should not be distracted from.

And also that you are developing your own understanding of your own numbers and how that can kind of cut through a lot of the BS that you may hear or how you may be able to really understand if the advice given to you or the ideas that you have are actually relevant and important for you to listen to right now.

So this is all coming up because I do a lot of private conversations with my stylists because I feel like if I'm going to be a mentor, I have to actually know what the hell is going on in your business.

And I love how these conversations, first off, educate me about a lot of the things that are going on in the industry overall.

I love how they give me ideas that I can furthermore support other stylists with.

And a lot of the times it's really difficult to do that outside of a one-to-one.

But I had three conversations recently in which this was the case, in which we may have heard some sort of advice, whether it be from me or somebody else.

And I could tell how much it was like infecting their decision making and their focus in their business.

And I was like, it actually ended up being something that is totally not relevant and that you actually should be focusing in a different space.

Maybe it can help you self reflect a little bit, whether you've had these situations or adjacently, you're recognizing, hey, I've been really focusing in this one area, but it actually could be this other thing.