After everything you’ve been through, keeping your heart open can feel like a lot to ask. But there’s still room for connection, beauty, and a life that feels more like you.
Author and Omega Institute cofounder **Elizabeth Lesser** joins **Chip Conley** to explore how divorce, loss, and aging can deepen our lives without hardening our hearts. Drawing on her books *Broken Open* and the forthcoming Stay Open, she shares insights on how to:
- Find new possibilities when your old life falls apart.
- Question the stories that keep you apart from people you love.
- Make room for joy and grief at the same time.
- Meet your aging body with kindness and care.
- Stay open while holding healthy boundaries.
Join Chip and Elizabeth for a heartfelt conversation about what it takes to stay soft, stay curious, and keep growing through life’s changes.
**Timestamps:**
(02:37) What Is the Soul?
(05:47) Let Your Soul Lead in Midlife
(08:45) When Life Breaks You Open
(11:54) The Stories That Keep Us Apart
(13:40) How to Have Difficult Conversations
(18:00) How to Stay Open When Life Is Hard
(24:03) Finding Beauty Alongside the Pain
(26:20) Growing Older, Becoming More Whole
(28:47) What Gets Better With Age
(32:59) How Omega Institute Began
(38:13) Behind the Scenes of a Retreat Center
(42:30) Do No Harm, but Take No Shit
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**Check out Chip's Celebrating Life's Wisdom Oct 25-29 2026 workshop:** https://www.meawisdom.com/celebrate
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