Jun 30, 2026 · 14 min · 8 segments
What happens to your decision-making when extreme stress forces you into tunnel vision? In this episode of the Mark Divine Show, retired Navy SEAL Commander Mark Divine unpacks the sixth core skill…
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Perspective holding is the ability to view a situation through multiple frames simultaneously without losing any of them under the pressure.
First frame is your immediate reality, what's actually happening right now, right in front of you.
What's the immediate threat? What's the need? What's the problem? Now, this is the frame that most people default to, and it is important.
So you've got to also have the second frame, which is your long-term outcomes in mind.
What does the situation look like in a year? What about five years? What about the second and third order consequences of the choice you're about to make? Now, this frame is what prevents decisions that solve the immediate problem while creating larger ones down the road.
What does your code say about the situation? What do you want this decision to look like when you have to account for it fully to the people you care about most? Now, the sheepdog is an individual who can hold all three of these frames simultaneously while under pressure.
You haven't sacrificed the long view to the urgent or the moral dimension to the expedient.
You're going to make better decisions that are more comprehensive and inclusive than if you're operating on any single frame, always.
Perspective holding is the ability to view a situation through multiple frames simultaneously without losing any of them under the pressure.
First frame is your immediate reality, what's actually happening right now, right in front of you.
What's the immediate threat? What's the need? What's the problem? Now, this is the frame that most people default to, and it is important.
So you've got to also have the second frame, which is your long-term outcomes in mind.
What does the situation look like in a year? What about five years? What about the second and third order consequences of the choice you're about to make? Now, this frame is what prevents decisions that solve the immediate problem while creating larger ones down the road.
What does your code say about the situation? What do you want this decision to look like when you have to account for it fully to the people you care about most? Now, the sheepdog is an individual who can hold all three of these frames simultaneously while under pressure.
You haven't sacrificed the long view to the urgent or the moral dimension to the expedient.
You're going to make better decisions that are more comprehensive and inclusive than if you're operating on any single frame, always.
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