Jun 15, 2026 · 55 min · 9 segments
Helen and Gavin chat about I Built You a Tower by Death Cab For Cutie, Widow's Bay, Stop! That! Train!, and Disclosure Day, and it's Week 50 of the list of Grammy Record of the Year Winners from 2008…
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But before we do that, Gav, what in pop culture news do you have for us this week?
Well, diminutive pop elf Ariana Grande has started a new foundation thanks to the White House using her music over ice propaganda.
I don't know if you've seen this.
Have you heard about this? Have you seen this? Have you heard about this?
No, but this is kind of par for the course because lots and lots of performers have yelled it at the White House and ICE for doing this sort of thing with their music.
Exactly, but how many of them have started up their own foundation?
Just Ariana Grande.
Right.
And good for her.
The politics of it all aside, you're using somebody else's IP for your own means without any credit or payment.
So even if it wasn't this horrendous kind of anti-human effort... it's still not the best thing in the world to do is to steal somebody else's music for your own cause
right and use it for terrible things
even if it wasn't for terrible things it's still bad
yes
doing it for terrible things
is even arguably worse
right so she started up the brighter days ahead foundation which you've got to appreciate the optimism there
right yes
to help fund organisations supporting immigrant families, LGBTQ plus causes, mental health care, civil and reproductive rights and community emergency response, which is quite admirable.
So good for Ariana Grande.
Yes, absolutely.
What's got your eye?
Well, the Tonys were this week.
Tonys what?
The Tonys.
But before we do that, Gav, what in pop culture news do you have for us this week?
Well, diminutive pop elf Ariana Grande has started a new foundation thanks to the White House using her music over ice propaganda.
I don't know if you've seen this.
Have you heard about this? Have you seen this? Have you heard about this?
No, but this is kind of par for the course because lots and lots of performers have yelled it at the White House and ICE for doing this sort of thing with their music.
Exactly, but how many of them have started up their own foundation?
Just Ariana Grande.
Right.
And good for her.
The politics of it all aside, you're using somebody else's IP for your own means without any credit or payment.
So even if it wasn't this horrendous kind of anti-human effort... it's still not the best thing in the world to do is to steal somebody else's music for your own cause
right and use it for terrible things
even if it wasn't for terrible things it's still bad
yes
doing it for terrible things
is even arguably worse
right so she started up the brighter days ahead foundation which you've got to appreciate the optimism there
right yes
to help fund organisations supporting immigrant families, LGBTQ plus causes, mental health care, civil and reproductive rights and community emergency response, which is quite admirable.
So good for Ariana Grande.
Yes, absolutely.
What's got your eye?
Well, the Tonys were this week.
Tonys what?
The Tonys.
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