Annabel Crabb On Grief, Motherhood, And The Joy Of Cooking

There's no amount of worrying that can really prepare you for it, I think.

And it's weird, like once, once it's happening, y- you're just in it.

It's like being in the water suddenly, and you just...

There's no time to think, "How is, how are we gonna handle this?" 'Cause you're just in it.

[upbeat music] Hi, I'm Jess Rowe, and this is The Jess Rowe Big Talk Show, a podcast that goes big and deep to show you a different side to our guests in conversations about the things that truly matter.

Annabel Crabb is a journalist, podcaster, and TV presenter who's covered Australian politics for close to 30 years.

She's just launched the eighth season of her wildly successful series, Kitchen Cabinet, on ABC TV and ABC iview, where she discovers a whole new side to politicians while they cook her a meal and she brings along dessert.

Now, I was hoping Annabel might bring something sweet along to our podcast chat, but she brought along something far more valuable, and that's her heart, humor, and honesty about the messiness of life.

And this is part one of our conversation, as we have a bonus episode where Annabel turned the tables and started to interview me.

Now, if you're a fan of Annabel's like I am, you'll love hearing this side of her.

And a gentle warning: this conversation touches on suicide.

Support is available.

You can call Lifeline on 13 11 14.

There's no amount of worrying that can really prepare you for it, I think.

And it's weird, like once, once it's happening, y- you're just in it.

It's like being in the water suddenly, and you just...

There's no time to think, "How is, how are we gonna handle this?" 'Cause you're just in it.

[upbeat music] Hi, I'm Jess Rowe, and this is The Jess Rowe Big Talk Show, a podcast that goes big and deep to show you a different side to our guests in conversations about the things that truly matter.

Annabel Crabb is a journalist, podcaster, and TV presenter who's covered Australian politics for close to 30 years.

She's just launched the eighth season of her wildly successful series, Kitchen Cabinet, on ABC TV and ABC iview, where she discovers a whole new side to politicians while they cook her a meal and she brings along dessert.

Now, I was hoping Annabel might bring something sweet along to our podcast chat, but she brought along something far more valuable, and that's her heart, humor, and honesty about the messiness of life.

And this is part one of our conversation, as we have a bonus episode where Annabel turned the tables and started to interview me.

Now, if you're a fan of Annabel's like I am, you'll love hearing this side of her.

And a gentle warning: this conversation touches on suicide.

Support is available.

You can call Lifeline on 13 11 14.