The IGNITE Podcast with Josh Stone
Jun 1, 2026 · 11 min · 8 segments
Engineers didn’t lose respect overnight — it happened one “yes” at a time. In this episode, I explain how the engineering & built environment profession gradually became commoditised, dropping fees &…
Josh StoneHost
All right, so the first big idea that I want to talk to you about in today's episode is this concept of like death by a thousand cuts.

And I want to talk you through like what's really happened over the course of our industry and comparing our profession, the engineering built environment profession to that of say doctors.

So what's happened over time team is, you know, doctors have gone this way because they kept saying no.

So they kept saying no to fee cuts, they kept saying no to people asking them to lower their prices and that sort of stuff.

And what's happened over here, and I'll talk about profit in a second, is their margins and their profit margins are up here.

Every time they say, just get one more thing done for the same amount of fees, we keep saying yes.

We made decisions throughout the entire course of our industry, discounting, rush scopes, shortcuts, they just became normalized.

So every time we say yes to unreasonable requests from our clients, we reset the expectations with our clients.

They stopped seeing boundaries in place because we stopped holding them accountable, stopped pushing back on our clients.

So the first big idea is like, we're all angry, we're all frustrated, we're annoyed this keeps happening, but I want to point the finger at the fact that this didn't happen overnight.

And so now it's up to us as a profession to start to go, you know what, enough's enough.

We need to start saying no, setting boundaries, and having those hard conversations with clients.

And That's not gonna be easy because we have trained our clients over the last 15, 20, 50, 100 years, whichever timeframe you wanna go to, to keep expecting us to say yes.

All right, so the first big idea that I want to talk to you about in today's episode is this concept of like death by a thousand cuts.

And I want to talk you through like what's really happened over the course of our industry and comparing our profession, the engineering built environment profession to that of say doctors.

So what's happened over time team is, you know, doctors have gone this way because they kept saying no.

So they kept saying no to fee cuts, they kept saying no to people asking them to lower their prices and that sort of stuff.

And what's happened over here, and I'll talk about profit in a second, is their margins and their profit margins are up here.

Every time they say, just get one more thing done for the same amount of fees, we keep saying yes.

We made decisions throughout the entire course of our industry, discounting, rush scopes, shortcuts, they just became normalized.

So every time we say yes to unreasonable requests from our clients, we reset the expectations with our clients.

They stopped seeing boundaries in place because we stopped holding them accountable, stopped pushing back on our clients.

So the first big idea is like, we're all angry, we're all frustrated, we're annoyed this keeps happening, but I want to point the finger at the fact that this didn't happen overnight.

And so now it's up to us as a profession to start to go, you know what, enough's enough.

We need to start saying no, setting boundaries, and having those hard conversations with clients.

And That's not gonna be easy because we have trained our clients over the last 15, 20, 50, 100 years, whichever timeframe you wanna go to, to keep expecting us to say yes.
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