The Holly Hughes Podcast: Inside the Lives of Writers, Musicians, Filmmakers & More
Aug 4, 2026 · 46 min · 11 segments
How to make friends as an adult is the question at the center of this episode of The Holly Hughes Podcast, and Shari Leid has spent the last several years answering it one stranger at a time. If…
Shari LeidGuest
Holly HughesHost
I also want to give you a crown for that because everywhere you go, you're coming across the same and I can see like this evolution and I can't wait to watch like what you do more.

But like, I love this idea of friendships that you have as well, because friendship is something personally I've struggled with in my life.

And I had to learn much later in my life that there are different kinds of friends.

We've gotten to the point where we put so much pressure on what a friend should be and what a friend needs to be.

The Webster's definition is simply having mutual admiration for another person, period.

And so if we think of a friend like that, we realize that's a great entry point.

And we don't have to put so much pressure on ourselves, let alone someone else that we have to show up for everything.

And we have to buy presents for a friend and it's expensive to have a friend And we have to go do everything together and invite every, if we let go of that pressure, it makes friendships so much easier.

We focus so much on teaching our kids how to make friends, that when friendships break up, we don't know how to break them up.

People want to get into the drama, but it's a natural flow of life because we all grow and change together.

And I simply think we put too much pressure on what a friend needs to be rather than really looking at that person and appreciating what a friendship becomes.

And it was interesting when I traveled across the U.S. and I would contact these women, especially women that I absolutely had no anchor to or no one referred me to as like a cold call.

I also want to give you a crown for that because everywhere you go, you're coming across the same and I can see like this evolution and I can't wait to watch like what you do more.

But like, I love this idea of friendships that you have as well, because friendship is something personally I've struggled with in my life.

And I had to learn much later in my life that there are different kinds of friends.

We've gotten to the point where we put so much pressure on what a friend should be and what a friend needs to be.

The Webster's definition is simply having mutual admiration for another person, period.

And so if we think of a friend like that, we realize that's a great entry point.

And we don't have to put so much pressure on ourselves, let alone someone else that we have to show up for everything.

And we have to buy presents for a friend and it's expensive to have a friend And we have to go do everything together and invite every, if we let go of that pressure, it makes friendships so much easier.

We focus so much on teaching our kids how to make friends, that when friendships break up, we don't know how to break them up.

People want to get into the drama, but it's a natural flow of life because we all grow and change together.

And I simply think we put too much pressure on what a friend needs to be rather than really looking at that person and appreciating what a friendship becomes.

And it was interesting when I traveled across the U.S. and I would contact these women, especially women that I absolutely had no anchor to or no one referred me to as like a cold call.
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