David LandsmanGuest
Greg McKeownHost
Assuming that there is a significant understanding gap going on rather than making the opposite assumption, I already understand people, I already get it, I just need to be clear and they'll get what I'm saying.

I think you're closer to reality, and so then your natural inclination after that is let me bridge the gap, let me understand better, let me work harder at this to see what's really going on under the surface.

I think sometimes there's a tendency to think it's the nice thing, it's the sympathetic thing to do, to think, "Well, we're all people.

Let's see if we can understand them and bridge them, but let's not start off with that assumption.

I'm your host, Greg McKeown, and as you know, what we're interested in, what we're trying to focus on is the most important skill in life, communication.

We all come into the world knowing nothing about communication, and the skills we pick up in our family, in high school, and hopefully beyond that, are hugely impactful as to the outcomes that we're going to get from relationships, from the results we want to get in our careers, in our personal life, a- and also in the conflict that we face, the inherent conflict that is a total and absolutely necessary part of life.

How do we deal with that? And today, I'm so pleased to have David Lansley with us to help us go deep on this conversation.

Uh, he, uh, knows all about bridging government, geopolitics, and corporate strategy.

Uh, he's a polyglot and a linguist, uh, with a PhD in modern Greek from the University of Cambridge, and a lifelong passion for languages and culture.

A strategic advisor, a board chair, uh, he helps companies navigate international markets and innovation.

Uh, he emphasizes in all of these things listening and clarity as strategic advantage, not something that's nice to have.

Greg, thank you, uh, very much, and for all that flattery, um, I'm very grateful.
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Assuming that there is a significant understanding gap going on rather than making the opposite assumption, I already understand people, I already get it, I just need to be clear and they'll get what I'm saying.

I think you're closer to reality, and so then your natural inclination after that is let me bridge the gap, let me understand better, let me work harder at this to see what's really going on under the surface.

I think sometimes there's a tendency to think it's the nice thing, it's the sympathetic thing to do, to think, "Well, we're all people.

Let's see if we can understand them and bridge them, but let's not start off with that assumption.

I'm your host, Greg McKeown, and as you know, what we're interested in, what we're trying to focus on is the most important skill in life, communication.

We all come into the world knowing nothing about communication, and the skills we pick up in our family, in high school, and hopefully beyond that, are hugely impactful as to the outcomes that we're going to get from relationships, from the results we want to get in our careers, in our personal life, a- and also in the conflict that we face, the inherent conflict that is a total and absolutely necessary part of life.

How do we deal with that? And today, I'm so pleased to have David Lansley with us to help us go deep on this conversation.

Uh, he, uh, knows all about bridging government, geopolitics, and corporate strategy.

Uh, he's a polyglot and a linguist, uh, with a PhD in modern Greek from the University of Cambridge, and a lifelong passion for languages and culture.

A strategic advisor, a board chair, uh, he helps companies navigate international markets and innovation.

Uh, he emphasizes in all of these things listening and clarity as strategic advantage, not something that's nice to have.

Greg, thank you, uh, very much, and for all that flattery, um, I'm very grateful.