The Worst Boss She Ever Had Made Her a Better Leader | The Forties Formula In Focus

Some of the ladies got to a point where they burnt out or suffered major sickness, illness.

Now...

Is there a way that they, obviously that makes them re-evaluate their situation because that is a big deal.

But is there a point where they can maybe look back and say, actually, I should have done something before I got to this point? Or do you think they needed to get to that point in order to make that decision and walk away?

Distance enables us to reflect.

Yeah.

You can't reflect when you're going through it.

So Alice Chen, who now lives in Singapore with her family and her daughter's 10 years old.

Wow, same age as my son.

There you go.

So she was working in a big Wall Street firm and she was in a very toxic environment where her boss, the partner of the firm, She felt under a lot of pressure herself.

And she would, you know, when she had a child, she took two weeks off.

She boasted about the fact that she only took two weeks off.

That put pressure on the other women in the team.

And it was a very difficult environment to be in.

And now, Alice has empathy for that woman.

At the time...

It was a difficult situation for her personally to be in, but she now has empathy.

And she's also learned how to be a better leader.

So how she runs her company, Investax, the name of her company, how she runs that company is with a coach leadership mentality.

So there is an environment where you don't grow people, mentor people by putting them down.

You grow people by lifting them up.

And I think, you know, that experience of going back to work two weeks postpartum.

Yeah.

I mean, that had to be physically shattering for her.