Jun 16, 2026 · 58 min · 12 segments
For years, we were told there was a "golden ticket" to success: become a doctor, engineer, accountant, or software developer and you'll be set for life. But what happens when that golden ticket…
Shawn KanungoGuestAnnaHost
I am conflicted on this because, you know, in my book, The Bold Ones, I pull up this study, and it's probably the most profound study on innovation that anybody's ever created, which is these researchers, they took a look at some of the greatest innovators, thinkers, inventors throughout history.
They unpacked their careers and tried to discover why are these individuals so prolific over time.
And what they discovered was that, in fact, these individuals went through a period of exploration.
And then at some point, they exploited just basically what I told you right now, which was what I did.
In my opinion, it would be bad advice for me to say, go off and try, you know, leave your job, become a content creator, then sail a ship, and then go and become a barista.
I didn't have to leave the job that I was at to pick up those different skills.
And so I just think that you see so many people jumping jobs now when actually...
The ultimate flex now, I believe, is like, can you stay at a company for 10 years and grind it out and, you know, become a leader and understand what that is to grind it out for 10 years? Like, to me, that's actually in this day and age, seeing a young person grind it out for 10, 20 years and develop all these different skills along the way is, to be honest with you, equally as impressive or maybe even more impressive, but I don't want somebody that has been in a career for 10, 20 years.
They've gone home and, and watch Netflix and they didn't pick up any new skills because they weren't hungry or curious.
And then I think you can also stick in a career and, and build different skills.
And, you know, people always ask me, and I know we're going to move to the AI thing, but like, I just think that today is the greatest time in human history to be a new grad, to be out of school, because there is no time in history where you have this technology at your fingertips.
And you can be so dangerous within an organization by leveraging these tools that you could actually surpass somebody that has been at the firm, at your firm or organization or industry for who's been there for 20, 30, 40 years because they checked out.
I am conflicted on this because, you know, in my book, The Bold Ones, I pull up this study, and it's probably the most profound study on innovation that anybody's ever created, which is these researchers, they took a look at some of the greatest innovators, thinkers, inventors throughout history.
They unpacked their careers and tried to discover why are these individuals so prolific over time.
And what they discovered was that, in fact, these individuals went through a period of exploration.
And then at some point, they exploited just basically what I told you right now, which was what I did.
In my opinion, it would be bad advice for me to say, go off and try, you know, leave your job, become a content creator, then sail a ship, and then go and become a barista.
I didn't have to leave the job that I was at to pick up those different skills.
And so I just think that you see so many people jumping jobs now when actually...
The ultimate flex now, I believe, is like, can you stay at a company for 10 years and grind it out and, you know, become a leader and understand what that is to grind it out for 10 years? Like, to me, that's actually in this day and age, seeing a young person grind it out for 10, 20 years and develop all these different skills along the way is, to be honest with you, equally as impressive or maybe even more impressive, but I don't want somebody that has been in a career for 10, 20 years.
They've gone home and, and watch Netflix and they didn't pick up any new skills because they weren't hungry or curious.
And then I think you can also stick in a career and, and build different skills.
And, you know, people always ask me, and I know we're going to move to the AI thing, but like, I just think that today is the greatest time in human history to be a new grad, to be out of school, because there is no time in history where you have this technology at your fingertips.
And you can be so dangerous within an organization by leveraging these tools that you could actually surpass somebody that has been at the firm, at your firm or organization or industry for who's been there for 20, 30, 40 years because they checked out.
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