THE EXPLODING HUMAN with Bob Nickman
Aug 16, 2026 · 1 hr 7 min · 14 segments
**JOE SMARRO**, a Marine Corps veteran, former police officer, and nationally recognized mental health advocate who is transforming crisis intervention and suicide prevention—especially for first…
Bob NickmanHost
But it is that and gut health of the two biggest things that come up on this podcast.

At least, you know, you hear about you and it was always like this super severe trauma that you would hear about.

But, you know, the things that sort of compounding trauma and I'm not diminishing your trauma at all, because those are those are actually severe things that, you know, particularly the childhood abuse.

You know, I don't, I haven't, I haven't looked at the statistics, but there are a lot of people who have a lot of trauma that they walk around with.

And, you know, when you, when you meet people, you're not just meeting the person, you're meeting their past and their, their family of origin and, and the things that have happened to them.

You know, I mean, two things people want the most, they want to feel, they want love and they want to feel safe.

And if you don't have those two things, you're, that's basically what trauma is.

If you don't have those, you've got a, you've got a situation where you're guarded and, And you're suspicious.

So it's an important thing to understand when you meet somebody or you're in a situation that...

You're meeting their entire past, which, you know, and how did, you know, I'm fascinated by that the VA was able to get you on in a direction.

But it is that and gut health of the two biggest things that come up on this podcast.

At least, you know, you hear about you and it was always like this super severe trauma that you would hear about.

But, you know, the things that sort of compounding trauma and I'm not diminishing your trauma at all, because those are those are actually severe things that, you know, particularly the childhood abuse.

You know, I don't, I haven't, I haven't looked at the statistics, but there are a lot of people who have a lot of trauma that they walk around with.

And, you know, when you, when you meet people, you're not just meeting the person, you're meeting their past and their, their family of origin and, and the things that have happened to them.

You know, I mean, two things people want the most, they want to feel, they want love and they want to feel safe.

And if you don't have those two things, you're, that's basically what trauma is.

If you don't have those, you've got a, you've got a situation where you're guarded and, And you're suspicious.

So it's an important thing to understand when you meet somebody or you're in a situation that...

You're meeting their entire past, which, you know, and how did, you know, I'm fascinated by that the VA was able to get you on in a direction.
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