Jul 28, 2025 · 37 min · 14 segments
The guest for today is Dr. Bryant Lin. He is a primary care physician, researcher, educator, and humanist at heart. He is currently a clinical professor at Stanford Medicine, a medical device…
Bryant LinGuestIvanHostLooking back, what was surprising or not surprising about the experience?

So I think that part about living in the shoes, you know, my own experience about what a patient goes through was very impactful.

You know, how experiencing it is very different than theoretically knowing about the experience.

And they spend, again, small amounts of time getting treatment and imaging or, you know, other testing.

most of your times at home, you know, 95% of your times at home or at work and living your life day to day.

So, you know, it was really enlightening me to say, to think and to experience that, you know, really reality of living day to day with cancer.

Like, what is it like to live with cancer? So that was, you know, in particular, something I wouldn't say it was surprising, but I think I came to the realization of how that balance is very different than the doctor's perception where, you know, when we see a patient, that's the universe, right? It's our interaction, which there's obviously so much more beyond that.
So do you experience time differently now?

So rather than taking open-ended projects, which I used to do, I really try to take on projects that have a more definite endpoint or, you know, some stronger motivation behind, like devoting a large percentage of my time to raise awareness about lung cancer and people who've never smoked.

Also, every day I ask myself, is this how I should be spending my day, right? Should I be spending an hour with Ivan doing a podcast? Is this how I should be spending my time? So
every day

Is this how I should spend my time? And sometimes I think, well, maybe I should change my schedule.

But fortunately, apparently, this experience has validated what I was doing before, and I haven't really changed much in my life in terms of scheduling and activities day to day based because of my diagnosis.

I still see patients day and a half a week, so three half days, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
Looking back, what was surprising or not surprising about the experience?

So I think that part about living in the shoes, you know, my own experience about what a patient goes through was very impactful.

You know, how experiencing it is very different than theoretically knowing about the experience.

And they spend, again, small amounts of time getting treatment and imaging or, you know, other testing.

most of your times at home, you know, 95% of your times at home or at work and living your life day to day.

So, you know, it was really enlightening me to say, to think and to experience that, you know, really reality of living day to day with cancer.

Like, what is it like to live with cancer? So that was, you know, in particular, something I wouldn't say it was surprising, but I think I came to the realization of how that balance is very different than the doctor's perception where, you know, when we see a patient, that's the universe, right? It's our interaction, which there's obviously so much more beyond that.
So do you experience time differently now?

So rather than taking open-ended projects, which I used to do, I really try to take on projects that have a more definite endpoint or, you know, some stronger motivation behind, like devoting a large percentage of my time to raise awareness about lung cancer and people who've never smoked.

Also, every day I ask myself, is this how I should be spending my day, right? Should I be spending an hour with Ivan doing a podcast? Is this how I should be spending my time? So
every day

Is this how I should spend my time? And sometimes I think, well, maybe I should change my schedule.

But fortunately, apparently, this experience has validated what I was doing before, and I haven't really changed much in my life in terms of scheduling and activities day to day based because of my diagnosis.

I still see patients day and a half a week, so three half days, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
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