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Ismail sits on several boards, including the Network Rail, and is a fellow at the University of Salford Business School.

Ismail is also the co-author of the book, From Incremental to Exponential, How Large Companies Can See the Future and Rethink Innovation.

Ismail, I kind of wanted to jump into something that we talked about ourselves before the show.

And I was thinking about it and I haven't really touched on it in the podcast today.

And you spoke to me a bit about, you know, you spent a decade in New York and then you moved back to the UK.

And it's only as you got older and more wise in your years that you started to think a bit more about identity and diversity and how that fits in.

Can you talk to me a little bit about that space? Because I'm really interested to kind of understand it from your perspective and how you see the world and how the world sees you as a serious professional in the technology space.
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