Sep 21, 2026 · 30 min · 15 segments
### **What if clinical trials could evaluate multiple treatment approaches at the same time and adapt as evidence emerges?** In this episode of the ECTRIMS Podcast, host Brett Drummond speaks with…
Jeremy ChatawayGuestDaniel OntanedaGuest
Brett DrummondHost
So I think as a starting point, very basic question, but a very important question for this episode.

When we talk about multi-stage, multi-arm clinical trials, what exactly are they and how do they differ from traditional clinical trial designs? Jeremy, I might start with you.

So traditional trials are, if you like, you're running a two horse race and participants are randomized to placebo or current standard of care and compared to that versus a new agent.

So that will be, again, using this horse race analogy, then that's a good way of thinking about it.

And wouldn't it be nice to run more than, as it were, two horses in one race and have a multi-horse race? And that's the multi-arm side of it.

The other aspect, again, to try and economize in terms of trial duration and therefore trial cost is to merge together different phases of the trial.

And we might talk about that, but typically what we call the phase two and the phase three.

We're trying to bring together a number of arms and we're trying to bring together different stages of the whole trial process.

So I think as a starting point, very basic question, but a very important question for this episode.

When we talk about multi-stage, multi-arm clinical trials, what exactly are they and how do they differ from traditional clinical trial designs? Jeremy, I might start with you.

So traditional trials are, if you like, you're running a two horse race and participants are randomized to placebo or current standard of care and compared to that versus a new agent.

So that will be, again, using this horse race analogy, then that's a good way of thinking about it.

And wouldn't it be nice to run more than, as it were, two horses in one race and have a multi-horse race? And that's the multi-arm side of it.

The other aspect, again, to try and economize in terms of trial duration and therefore trial cost is to merge together different phases of the trial.

And we might talk about that, but typically what we call the phase two and the phase three.

We're trying to bring together a number of arms and we're trying to bring together different stages of the whole trial process.
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