The Champion Forum Podcast with Jeff Hancher
Aug 20, 2026 · 18 min · 10 segments
We want your feedback and questions. Text us here. What do you do when you’re leading well, serving others, and staying consistent, but nobody seems…
Jeff HancherHost
And listen, I like a good dopamine hit just like any of you, but here's what I've also learned on this journey that I've been on.

You know that moment where you, you, you were instrumental in helping somebody believe in themselves? That moment where you coach somebody through failure.

Those moments where y- you, you were protecting somebody's dignity during a very hard conversation that you had to have with them versus pulling them through the mud.

You know, guiding some, some people through serious personal issues that was impacting their work when the, when, when maybe the culture was saying, "Leave all your problems at the door.

We got a job to do here," but you decided as a leader to show up and guide them through that serious issue that was going on and trying to help them create a level of balance in their life.

Maybe, maybe you helped somebody earn a promotion after several years of them trying and failing, and they finally get the promotion.

You know, leader, if you've been in the game a while, you can agree with me and say there's no award for those moments.

There's no standing ovation that you're gonna get for those, uh, I, I call those leadership moments that are in the shadows.

But looking back, I can tell you this, those, those moments mattered far more than many of the awards that are hanging on my wall.

And I think so mo- so often, and maybe we've gotten to this place, that we've confused recognition with significance.

Are we confusing recognition with significance? Because I'm here to tell you those two things are not synonymous, and I think we've started measuring success by visibility, and I think that this is a, a slippery slope for us.

And listen, I like a good dopamine hit just like any of you, but here's what I've also learned on this journey that I've been on.

You know that moment where you, you, you were instrumental in helping somebody believe in themselves? That moment where you coach somebody through failure.

Those moments where y- you, you were protecting somebody's dignity during a very hard conversation that you had to have with them versus pulling them through the mud.

You know, guiding some, some people through serious personal issues that was impacting their work when the, when, when maybe the culture was saying, "Leave all your problems at the door.

We got a job to do here," but you decided as a leader to show up and guide them through that serious issue that was going on and trying to help them create a level of balance in their life.

Maybe, maybe you helped somebody earn a promotion after several years of them trying and failing, and they finally get the promotion.

You know, leader, if you've been in the game a while, you can agree with me and say there's no award for those moments.

There's no standing ovation that you're gonna get for those, uh, I, I call those leadership moments that are in the shadows.

But looking back, I can tell you this, those, those moments mattered far more than many of the awards that are hanging on my wall.

And I think so mo- so often, and maybe we've gotten to this place, that we've confused recognition with significance.

Are we confusing recognition with significance? Because I'm here to tell you those two things are not synonymous, and I think we've started measuring success by visibility, and I think that this is a, a slippery slope for us.
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