The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast: Lead Like Never Before
Jun 23, 2026 · 1 hr 16 min · 11 segments
Most leaders don't think of themselves as creative. Al Gordon says that's the lie keeping you stuck. Al, founder of Renaissance, lead pastor of SAINT in East London, talks about why creativity is…
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So a- again, as part of Spark, I had this, the joy and the privilege of researching some of this stuff, and I s- I spent some time with a brain scientist, m- fascinating guy who specializes in creativity and the brain.
And he talks about how the default mode networks, the parts of your brain that are responsible for creativity, and you can map this so cool now.
We c- last 10 years we've been able to actually map brain activity in a really fun way.
And one of the things that emerges from this, and this is relevant for the age of AI as well, is that the brain actually comes alive when you're doing nothing.
I really hope our time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership.
We talk about what's going on in England, the revival there, the connection between creativity and young adults who are coming, flocking to Christianity, why stress is killing your imagination, how to get out of that spiral, and how to unlock creativity in your church.
What if you have a community of creatives that is completely untapped, and what would that do to your ministry? What would that do to your, your mission? What would that do to the world? We're gonna talk about all of that today.
He's the founder of Renaissance, a global movement empowering churches to become cathedrals of creativity, and he's heavily involved with Alpha and a whole lot more.
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