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The Best Leadership Podcast Ever (with Jeff Matlow)

The Best Leadership Podcast Ever (with Jeff Matlow)

107. The growth paradox | Why leaders who avoid pain need it most

Jun 23, 2026 · 8 min · 9 segments

Growth hurts. Always. The growth paradox is that leaders who run from the pain are the ones who need it most.

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Speakers: Jeff MatlowHost

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Welcome & Show Opening0:00 – 0:21

Jeff MatlowHost

0:00

I'm Jeff Matlow.

Jeff MatlowHost

0:01

Welcome to the best leadership podcast ever.

Jeff MatlowHost

0:11

Welcome back to the pod.

Jeff MatlowHost

0:13

Always great to have you here.

Jeff MatlowHost

0:14

I love talking with you.

Jeff MatlowHost

0:16

It's just a special time of the week for me.

Jeff MatlowHost

0:18

So thank you.

Jeff MatlowHost

0:20

Thank you for showing up.

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Mental HealthHealth
Society
LeadershipBusiness
Conflict ResolutionBusiness > Leadership
Team DynamicsBusiness > Leadership > Conflict Resolution
ResilienceHealth > Mental Health > Emotional Well-being > Coping Strategies
Cultural TrendsSociety
DiscomfortPersonal Development > Growth
Coping MechanismsPsychology > Human Behavior
Emotional Well-beingHealth > Mental Health
Comfort CultureSociety > Cultural Trends
Human BehaviorPsychology
Personal Development
Coping StrategiesHealth > Mental Health > Emotional Well-being
Pain ManagementPsychology > Human Behavior > Coping Mechanisms
GrowthPersonal Development
Health
Psychology
Business
PainPersonal Development > Growth > Discomfort
LeadershipPersonal Development > Growth > Discomfort > Pain
Self-ImprovementPsychology > Human Behavior > Coping Mechanisms > Pain Management
ChallengesSociety > Cultural Trends > Comfort Culture
Personal GrowthSociety > Cultural Trends > Comfort Culture > Challenges
Personal GrowthBusiness > Leadership > Conflict Resolution > Team Dynamics

Welcome & Show Opening0:00 – 0:21

Jeff MatlowHost

0:00

I'm Jeff Matlow.

Jeff MatlowHost

0:01

Welcome to the best leadership podcast ever.

Jeff MatlowHost

0:11

Welcome back to the pod.

Jeff MatlowHost

0:13

Always great to have you here.

Jeff MatlowHost

0:14

I love talking with you.

Jeff MatlowHost

0:16

It's just a special time of the week for me.

Jeff MatlowHost

0:18

So thank you.

Jeff MatlowHost

0:20

Thank you for showing up.