The Art Of Listening To Your Body
Jun 8, 2026 · 26 min · 10 segments
I recently received an incredible voice message from Victoria, a pharmacist of 20 years who has navigated three autoimmune diseases and breast cancer. We explore the powerful intersection of…
Victoria BirchallGuest
Jin OngHost
I have this exciting episode that I have just decided to slip in at the moment with the wonderful Victoria Birchall and it comes off the back of a amazing voice message that I received from her.

I'm going to have Victoria share in her beautiful energy, but I really wanted to capture this as a moment that she can look back on because I really feel the doors of possibility are opening up.

So, Victoria, thank you so much for saying yes so quickly because so many people do hesitate, like, oh, my gosh, what am I going to say? Am I ready? And I'm like, you're perfect, otherwise I wouldn't have asked you to come on.

I'm, um, well up until a couple of weeks ago, I would have introduced myself as a pharmacist, but, um, I left my job of over 20 years, two weeks ago and, um, to pursue kind of the other side of me, which is more creative, spiritual writing.

And, um, I kind of start, I came and did release with you a couple of years ago in the summer of 2024.

I'd had three autoimmune diseases and breast cancer, and it was only like 46 or something.

So Um, although I very much believe in the using the medicines and all the traditional side, um, I don't really rule out the alternative side either.

And I had found your podcasts and listened to them all and, um, really kind of felt the pull to do release the six week course within that summer.

And it was really because the third autoimmune disorder, which had been diagnosed with was the inflammatory arthritis.

And I'd been under rheumatology for quite a long time and nothing was showing up in blood tests or I'd had an ultrasound about five years previous and my hands didn't look that arthritic, but I just knew that I was sore in a lot of different joints.

And the consultant quickly got me on some medicines to try and dampen down the body's response and try and help with the symptoms, but they didn't really work even though I took them as I should.

And I had another ultrasound, I think at the end of that year, and it was still very active.

I have this exciting episode that I have just decided to slip in at the moment with the wonderful Victoria Birchall and it comes off the back of a amazing voice message that I received from her.

I'm going to have Victoria share in her beautiful energy, but I really wanted to capture this as a moment that she can look back on because I really feel the doors of possibility are opening up.

So, Victoria, thank you so much for saying yes so quickly because so many people do hesitate, like, oh, my gosh, what am I going to say? Am I ready? And I'm like, you're perfect, otherwise I wouldn't have asked you to come on.

I'm, um, well up until a couple of weeks ago, I would have introduced myself as a pharmacist, but, um, I left my job of over 20 years, two weeks ago and, um, to pursue kind of the other side of me, which is more creative, spiritual writing.

And, um, I kind of start, I came and did release with you a couple of years ago in the summer of 2024.

I'd had three autoimmune diseases and breast cancer, and it was only like 46 or something.

So Um, although I very much believe in the using the medicines and all the traditional side, um, I don't really rule out the alternative side either.

And I had found your podcasts and listened to them all and, um, really kind of felt the pull to do release the six week course within that summer.

And it was really because the third autoimmune disorder, which had been diagnosed with was the inflammatory arthritis.

And I'd been under rheumatology for quite a long time and nothing was showing up in blood tests or I'd had an ultrasound about five years previous and my hands didn't look that arthritic, but I just knew that I was sore in a lot of different joints.

And the consultant quickly got me on some medicines to try and dampen down the body's response and try and help with the symptoms, but they didn't really work even though I took them as I should.

And I had another ultrasound, I think at the end of that year, and it was still very active.
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