Jun 4, 2026 · 52 min · 11 segments
Most organizations undervalue the true potential of conversational AI—until now. Jim Kraeutler, a product manager at Amazon Connect, exposes how innovative solutions like NLX are revolutionizing…
Jim KraeutlerGuestDougHostMarkHost
But all the way down through your whole set of self-service tasks that you want to enable for customers to enable that easier, more lifelike, more natural than ever before without any risk.
I've been troubled for many years.
With the approach people have.
You can go anywhere, Doug.
I know, I know.
This might be one of those long ones, Mark.
You have been troubled for many years.
It's a different podcast.
It's a different podcast.
One of the troubles I've had for many years has been customers saying to me, we're interested in containment in the IBR.
This will be familiar.
Anyone who's listened this far into the podcast will be very familiar with these concepts.
The problem I've always had is that these are quite negative terms.
They are suggesting you are coercing your customer away from what they want to do, which is actually get what they need from you, solve their problem in a polite, friendly way with someone who's nice.
And you're saying, no, no, no, that costs me too much money.
That's the other thing.
People say, oh, we want to offer our customers choice.
That's why we want to do self-service.
When in actual fact, most of the time, I think they're speaking out of the other side of their mouth when really what they're saying is, I want to reduce my costs.
I don't want to pay for this human to do it.
I want to lower my bottom line when it comes to these kinds of things.
In so doing, I'm going to make a worse experience for my customers and I'm going to force them to do it by containing them and deflecting them and all that kind of thing.

But all the way down through your whole set of self-service tasks that you want to enable for customers to enable that easier, more lifelike, more natural than ever before without any risk.
I've been troubled for many years.
With the approach people have.
You can go anywhere, Doug.
I know, I know.
This might be one of those long ones, Mark.
You have been troubled for many years.
It's a different podcast.
It's a different podcast.
One of the troubles I've had for many years has been customers saying to me, we're interested in containment in the IBR.
This will be familiar.
Anyone who's listened this far into the podcast will be very familiar with these concepts.
The problem I've always had is that these are quite negative terms.
They are suggesting you are coercing your customer away from what they want to do, which is actually get what they need from you, solve their problem in a polite, friendly way with someone who's nice.
And you're saying, no, no, no, that costs me too much money.
That's the other thing.
People say, oh, we want to offer our customers choice.
That's why we want to do self-service.
When in actual fact, most of the time, I think they're speaking out of the other side of their mouth when really what they're saying is, I want to reduce my costs.
I don't want to pay for this human to do it.
I want to lower my bottom line when it comes to these kinds of things.
In so doing, I'm going to make a worse experience for my customers and I'm going to force them to do it by containing them and deflecting them and all that kind of thing.
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