Abby WhiteHost
Theresa HouckHost
So what's really scary about this, too, Teresa, and I was reading your article, it's this demonstrates that AI doesn't even need to invent new attack techniques to completely change the cybersecurity field.

But at machine speed, that's what's so frightening, along with the fact that the data wasn't backed up.

Yeah, this jade puffer attack showed that attack speed is now exceeding human review cycles.

So any security programs that enterprises are using that do reviews quarterly or monthly, that leaves vulnerability increasingly mismatched against attacks that can adapt to failures or vulnerabilities in near real time.

Well, not only that, but AI, it sounds like it's really replacing human attackers when it comes to cybersecurity.

Yeah, and the AI orchestration platforms act as autonomous operators with the power to use tools and alter production environments.

And many security teams treat them like high-privileged infrastructure rather than standard applications.

So orchestration layers like Lanche and Autogen are provided API access, database credentials, and execution environments to take actions across the cloud and internal networks, but that also provides access.

Well, if you're out there listening and, you know, if you work in IT, you've surely heard this story.

And one thing that Teresa did in her article for you all is there's a section where she said what IT leaders should do now.

I will hint at the fact that, you know, experts recommend focusing on the foundational cybersecurity practices before investing in new defensive technologies.

So like you said, Teresa, like you can't just review these every quarter, right? Like the speed of attack is outpacing the review period.

But another scary part of this, besides the agentic part, is that a lot of times attackers act like legitimate users.

So what's really scary about this, too, Teresa, and I was reading your article, it's this demonstrates that AI doesn't even need to invent new attack techniques to completely change the cybersecurity field.

But at machine speed, that's what's so frightening, along with the fact that the data wasn't backed up.

Yeah, this jade puffer attack showed that attack speed is now exceeding human review cycles.

So any security programs that enterprises are using that do reviews quarterly or monthly, that leaves vulnerability increasingly mismatched against attacks that can adapt to failures or vulnerabilities in near real time.

Well, not only that, but AI, it sounds like it's really replacing human attackers when it comes to cybersecurity.

Yeah, and the AI orchestration platforms act as autonomous operators with the power to use tools and alter production environments.

And many security teams treat them like high-privileged infrastructure rather than standard applications.

So orchestration layers like Lanche and Autogen are provided API access, database credentials, and execution environments to take actions across the cloud and internal networks, but that also provides access.

Well, if you're out there listening and, you know, if you work in IT, you've surely heard this story.

And one thing that Teresa did in her article for you all is there's a section where she said what IT leaders should do now.

I will hint at the fact that, you know, experts recommend focusing on the foundational cybersecurity practices before investing in new defensive technologies.

So like you said, Teresa, like you can't just review these every quarter, right? Like the speed of attack is outpacing the review period.

But another scary part of this, besides the agentic part, is that a lot of times attackers act like legitimate users.
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