Aug 7, 2026 · 1 hr 4 min · 13 segments
In this episode of Teaching Python, Kelly and Julian welcome IBM Distinguished Engineer Jeff Crume to talk about teaching hard things simply. The conversation begins with Jeff’s short, visually driven…
Jeff CrumeGuest
Kelly Schuster-ParedesHost
Julian SequeiraHost... what, um, when you're, when you're thinking about teaching these, uh, difficult topics, because l- you go from everything.
But then you have to talk about everything else that encompasses tech.
When you go to build out these, and this is, I guess, like a really hard thing for teachers, is trying to tease out what's the most important, um, what is it that they really need to know, and how can you get it in a, in a place where everyone's gonna understand? What's your, what's your trick? Because I think-
... you are quite the, uh, experienced educator when it comes to, to that.

I'll tell you, there's a lot of learning I had to do, and other people taught me, and then I learned from mistakes that I made as well, that it, it's different when you're in YouTube land than when you're in the classroom or when you're at a conference presenting, and I do all of those.

Um, we, we're used to, you know, if you've got a classroom, you've got a captive audience, so they kinda have to be there.

Uh, if you're in YouTube land, you've got about 15 seconds, and if you don't grab 'em, they're out the door- Hmm ... on to the next video.

So one of the things that you can't do, and I see this as a rookie mistake, people will start these videos, and they're standing there and they're introducing their topic and just talking.

They are, they are not walking, they are running for the exits at that point, because YouTube land is short attention span.
... what, um, when you're, when you're thinking about teaching these, uh, difficult topics, because l- you go from everything.
But then you have to talk about everything else that encompasses tech.
When you go to build out these, and this is, I guess, like a really hard thing for teachers, is trying to tease out what's the most important, um, what is it that they really need to know, and how can you get it in a, in a place where everyone's gonna understand? What's your, what's your trick? Because I think-
... you are quite the, uh, experienced educator when it comes to, to that.

I'll tell you, there's a lot of learning I had to do, and other people taught me, and then I learned from mistakes that I made as well, that it, it's different when you're in YouTube land than when you're in the classroom or when you're at a conference presenting, and I do all of those.

Um, we, we're used to, you know, if you've got a classroom, you've got a captive audience, so they kinda have to be there.

Uh, if you're in YouTube land, you've got about 15 seconds, and if you don't grab 'em, they're out the door- Hmm ... on to the next video.

So one of the things that you can't do, and I see this as a rookie mistake, people will start these videos, and they're standing there and they're introducing their topic and just talking.

They are, they are not walking, they are running for the exits at that point, because YouTube land is short attention span.
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