Take It From Us with Kent Johns
Sep 17, 2026 · 26 min · 11 segments
Flynn Mitchell spent three years in a Dunedin university flat built for wheelchair users — accessible kitchen, accessible bathroom, full independence. Then he moved home to Auckland and lost all of…
Ray FinchGuest
Flynn MitchellGuest
Kent JohnsHost
So Ray, how do we solve the problem? Yeah, I mean, at Laura Ferguson, we've recently become a community housing provider, which was a real strategic objective to A, try to influence the way Ministry of Housing or now Ministry of Cities, Enterprise and Transport, MSURT, consider housing.

So we've become that chip where that affords us now the opportunity to, when the windows open, we apply for ministry support to build homes in specific areas that would put those homes on the community housing register and someone like Flynn would be able to move into those and pay the appropriate rents based on their income.

So if someone's not employed and they're on disability benefit, they'd pay as little as $75 a week.

But what's great about that community housing model is it is an income-related rental approach to accessing it.

We're really encouraged by the amazing support that we had from the Community Housing Regulatory Authority.

We do just have a real concern that they don't recognize the need the costs to provide a truly accessible environment.

Now our, our trust is putting $30 million towards a hundred million dollar property fund that we've raised.

And we're going to build 160 homes and Flynn's had input into some of our design and our layouts and the functionality, but those homes would probably come in and that's, $200,000 more than a non-disabled person's home because of the space required.

And we want to put in technology at the front door where the door opens up when it picks up.

So he can reach something off the top shelf and a ceiling hoist that means he can get out of bed in the morning and zip through into the shower and the toilets and be out the door by 7 o'clock like the rest of us to jump into Auckland traffic and get to work, right? All of that costs a couple hundred thousand dollars more But we've shown the ministry how they'll save over $100,000 a year, and these homes will be around for 50 years.

So just in removing the care costs is one thing, but improving a person's independence and their mental health state, there's a whole lot of other benefits to society by having... physically disabled people being true citizens of New Zealand again.

We're super excited by the support of our board to be allocating a big chunk of money towards building these homes that will hopefully change.

We're making our designs open source and sharing the story and hopefully that other charities and other builders and organisations will do the same.

Because by our count, there's whatever 4,000 physically disabled people that are living at home with mum and dad, but not by choice.

So Ray, how do we solve the problem? Yeah, I mean, at Laura Ferguson, we've recently become a community housing provider, which was a real strategic objective to A, try to influence the way Ministry of Housing or now Ministry of Cities, Enterprise and Transport, MSURT, consider housing.

So we've become that chip where that affords us now the opportunity to, when the windows open, we apply for ministry support to build homes in specific areas that would put those homes on the community housing register and someone like Flynn would be able to move into those and pay the appropriate rents based on their income.

So if someone's not employed and they're on disability benefit, they'd pay as little as $75 a week.

But what's great about that community housing model is it is an income-related rental approach to accessing it.

We're really encouraged by the amazing support that we had from the Community Housing Regulatory Authority.

We do just have a real concern that they don't recognize the need the costs to provide a truly accessible environment.

Now our, our trust is putting $30 million towards a hundred million dollar property fund that we've raised.

And we're going to build 160 homes and Flynn's had input into some of our design and our layouts and the functionality, but those homes would probably come in and that's, $200,000 more than a non-disabled person's home because of the space required.

And we want to put in technology at the front door where the door opens up when it picks up.

So he can reach something off the top shelf and a ceiling hoist that means he can get out of bed in the morning and zip through into the shower and the toilets and be out the door by 7 o'clock like the rest of us to jump into Auckland traffic and get to work, right? All of that costs a couple hundred thousand dollars more But we've shown the ministry how they'll save over $100,000 a year, and these homes will be around for 50 years.

So just in removing the care costs is one thing, but improving a person's independence and their mental health state, there's a whole lot of other benefits to society by having... physically disabled people being true citizens of New Zealand again.

We're super excited by the support of our board to be allocating a big chunk of money towards building these homes that will hopefully change.

We're making our designs open source and sharing the story and hopefully that other charities and other builders and organisations will do the same.

Because by our count, there's whatever 4,000 physically disabled people that are living at home with mum and dad, but not by choice.
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