Sep 12, 2026 · 56 min · 11 segments
Heidi Hatch joins Maura Carabello and former Utah State Auditor John Dougall to examine how America has changed in the 25 years since 9/11 and debate plans to memorialize Charlie Kirk at UVU. They…
Maura CarabelloGuest
Heidi HatchHost
And I don't know if you guys do this, but every 9-11, I watch some of the original coverage from that day just to remind myself.

Everyone just assumed it was a silly pilot in a prop plane that accidentally hit the building.

And I think it took a while for us to realize that terrorism could happen on U.S. soil.

Pearl Harbor, probably the closest thing we have to it, which was another generation.

And so it definitely is a time to reflect, to look at exactly where we've come, where we're going.

Mara, have you watched any of that coverage as well or busy with life? Well, I mean, so a lot of the coverage

this year included original coverage, right? More so than other years, I think, because this is a big anniversary.

And it is striking how when you listen to the real time, we were watching this play out in real time together.

You know, I mean, I recall I was when the first details of it, I was walking my dog, but I had on a... news station on my ears and came back.

And like many of us then stayed by the TV all day and watched this unfold in real time.

And you hear that in all the broadcasters that they are broadcasting while we're all getting data.

And the progression of that is interesting because it was this very same moment, same time.

I was working at ABC for twenty five years ago and I was working night shifts and my daughter was nine months old and I was still asleep.

And I was awake in time to watch the second tower hit and almost immediately went into work.

And I was watching the live feeds of the video that many people didn't see for years until we live in the YouTube age where people are posting the videos.

And I don't know if you guys do this, but every 9-11, I watch some of the original coverage from that day just to remind myself.

Everyone just assumed it was a silly pilot in a prop plane that accidentally hit the building.

And I think it took a while for us to realize that terrorism could happen on U.S. soil.

Pearl Harbor, probably the closest thing we have to it, which was another generation.

And so it definitely is a time to reflect, to look at exactly where we've come, where we're going.

Mara, have you watched any of that coverage as well or busy with life? Well, I mean, so a lot of the coverage

this year included original coverage, right? More so than other years, I think, because this is a big anniversary.

And it is striking how when you listen to the real time, we were watching this play out in real time together.

You know, I mean, I recall I was when the first details of it, I was walking my dog, but I had on a... news station on my ears and came back.

And like many of us then stayed by the TV all day and watched this unfold in real time.

And you hear that in all the broadcasters that they are broadcasting while we're all getting data.

And the progression of that is interesting because it was this very same moment, same time.

I was working at ABC for twenty five years ago and I was working night shifts and my daughter was nine months old and I was still asleep.

And I was awake in time to watch the second tower hit and almost immediately went into work.

And I was watching the live feeds of the video that many people didn't see for years until we live in the YouTube age where people are posting the videos.
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