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I am so excited to bring on one of the leading Instagram strategists for business owners — Michelle Gifford. She helps six and seven-figure brands grow their audience, sell out their offers, and generate real revenue through Instagram. She's also a coach, agency owner, podcast host of The Social Strategist, and a mother of five proving every day that it's possible to build a thriving business without sacrificing what matters most.
When I invited Michelle onto the show, I knew we'd be talking Instagram strategy. What I didn't expect was how deep we'd go into the *mindset* behind building a successful business on Instagram. Grab your notebook.
**WHAT YOU'LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE**
- **03:15** How Michelle went from teaching photography as a business to becoming one of the leading Instagram strategists for six and seven-figure brands
- **05:07** The moment Michelle realized she wasn't growing on Instagram even though she was teaching it, and exactly what she changed
- **07:30** Why sitting on the fence wastes more time and energy than just deciding to go all in
- **08:23** How to use Instagram results as information instead of validation
- **09:22** The two types of Instagram users every business owner needs to recognize and the decision point each of them faces
- **10:19** Why Instagram now rewards the best content creators and why that's actually a gift
- **11:17** The identity mindset shift required when you move from Instagram consumer to Instagram business owner
- **16:20** What's working for organic Instagram growth right now: carousels, reels, and the share rate metric you need to watch
- **18:44** The content test Michelle uses before posting anything: save it, share it, or watch all the way through
- **20:59** How to keep people watching reels all the way through: layered hooks, visual movement, and ruthless editing
- **22:21** How long your reels should actually be and why Michelle uses a "mini skirt" rule
- **23:20** Why not all content has to go viral and how to separate attract, nurture, and sell content
- **30:17** How Michelle runs a business and creates content with five kids, a dog, and two cats
- **35:36** How Michelle uses AI including Claude Co-Work for competitor analysis and Instagram content research
- **39:05** How Claude Co-Work opens a Chrome browser and analyzes Instagram accounts in real time
- **41:00** How Michelle uses AI to automate daily social media news briefings and podcast guest thank-you emails
- **41:52** Michelle's Descript workflow for podcast editing
**LINKS MENTIONED**
- Hot Reels (my 12-month Instagram content lab):
- Michelle Gifford's Website:
- Michelle on Instagram:
- The Social Strategist Podcast:
- Michelle AI (Michelle's custom GPT):
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