Eric AlexanderHost
And it's interesting, you talk about that perception in our culture that ownership is the pinnacle.

And it definitely is a stronger mindset than like if I'm just a consumer or a renter.
Yeah, and that was, I mean, really, I started with, okay, well, what is a steward? Because, again, there's no argument that she's not fully engaged and fully invested.
There are people who are fully invested, but in something bigger than themselves.
But at the end of the day, it's not necessarily about something bigger than themselves.
What I realized with so many of my clients who worry about, you know, if something happens to them, the assets just go to the kids and they're dissipated and spent.
Um, there's a consumerism, as you mentioned, um, the, the, and so a lot of my clients, um, will come in and say, okay, we need to limit how much we give to them or limit how much they can have or limit it to income or only give them a certain amount.
We might be attempting to titrate it a bit, but the opposite of consumerism is not minimalism.
The opposite of consumerism is stewardship because a consumer has no investment and there's nothing bigger than themselves.

And I'm visualizing now that four by four matrix, two-dimensional matrix that you set up in the book.

And that equation of stewardship being the investment plus the transcendence, that's really powerful.

And it's interesting, you talk about that perception in our culture that ownership is the pinnacle.

And it definitely is a stronger mindset than like if I'm just a consumer or a renter.
Yeah, and that was, I mean, really, I started with, okay, well, what is a steward? Because, again, there's no argument that she's not fully engaged and fully invested.
There are people who are fully invested, but in something bigger than themselves.
But at the end of the day, it's not necessarily about something bigger than themselves.
What I realized with so many of my clients who worry about, you know, if something happens to them, the assets just go to the kids and they're dissipated and spent.
Um, there's a consumerism, as you mentioned, um, the, the, and so a lot of my clients, um, will come in and say, okay, we need to limit how much we give to them or limit how much they can have or limit it to income or only give them a certain amount.
We might be attempting to titrate it a bit, but the opposite of consumerism is not minimalism.
The opposite of consumerism is stewardship because a consumer has no investment and there's nothing bigger than themselves.

And I'm visualizing now that four by four matrix, two-dimensional matrix that you set up in the book.

And that equation of stewardship being the investment plus the transcendence, that's really powerful.
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