Oct 2, 2026 · 22 min · 9 segments
Life is hard. Marriage is hard. Parenting is hard. Managing money is hard. But there are two kinds of hard — and only one of them is worth choosing. In this episode, Brian and Katie discuss: - Why…
Brian HessHost
Katie HessHost
There's something very specific we wanna get into, and that's that in everything in life there are two kinds of hard.
There is the hard work of being intentional and disciplined and responsible, and that's hard because it takes way more effort-
... to have vision for your marriage, and then to start to think about, well, what do we have to do in order for that to become a reality?
So there's that, and it's hard, and I would say that it's so hard that a lot of people opt out-
There's something very specific we wanna get into, and that's that in everything in life there are two kinds of hard.
There is the hard work of being intentional and disciplined and responsible, and that's hard because it takes way more effort-
... to have vision for your marriage, and then to start to think about, well, what do we have to do in order for that to become a reality?
So there's that, and it's hard, and I would say that it's so hard that a lot of people opt out-
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