Why Perfection is Killing Your Leadership (And How Vulnerability Drives Success) w/ Jasper Calcara

Do you think there's a bit of a stigma when it comes to men and seeking help through therapy or counseling versus, because us women, it's just general, it's just normal.

Even when you speak with friends, you're like, oh, girl, yeah, I spoke to my therapist last week.

But is there still a stigma when it comes to men? Because when you were talking about how sometimes things would fall apart with them and they don't see their children and whatnot, are they still seeing therapy as something that's taboo?

I think still we're making progress, but I definitely still think that, you know, there's this male role that we're supposed to fill the provider.

We're supposed to be the strength for our families at all costs.

In many cases, whether we put that on ourselves, our parents do, society does.

It's very common, you know, that that's kind of this expectation to be strong, to be firm, to take on anything.

So to admit weakness is really, I think, difficult for many men.

Weakness, they think, is vulnerability.

Vulnerability is dangerous.

You don't want to be vulnerable.

But

what I tell people, it's the opposite.

It's dangerous not to be vulnerable.

It's dangerous not to address these things and heal these things because, again, you see it constantly around you.

So all I can do is lead by example.

I don't hear a lot of highly successful business owners out there really talking about deep emotional things.

So I'm proud to try to be somebody that does that.

But I do see it a lot more.

It's definitely much more common and people are much more comfortable in discussing getting help and therapy.

But there's a long road to go for sure.