Stop Labeling People By Behavior
Ask what emotional need drives difficult behavior
Aug 17, 2026 · 36 min · 14 segments
She tried something unconventional on her first date: a psychology theory from the 60s. 12 years of marriage later, she told me exactly what she did. Tune in to my conversation with Sandy Gerber and…
Sandy GerberGuest
Natasha BazilevichHost
You know, the thing about communication is first understanding yourself, right? Knowing what's motivating you.

And so through that book, I realized that, and I started sharing it with people.

Then I started using it in my business with new clients, and my business started to grow.

And then I did something totally crazy, Natasha, and I used this information on my first date with my now hot husband of 12 years.

You know, I'm motivated by achievement and experience, two of the emotional magnets," and we'll go into that.

he was like, "Okay." And, uh, I said, "And you?" You know? And ever since, we've been honoring that in each other.

You know, the thing about communication is first understanding yourself, right? Knowing what's motivating you.

And so through that book, I realized that, and I started sharing it with people.

Then I started using it in my business with new clients, and my business started to grow.

And then I did something totally crazy, Natasha, and I used this information on my first date with my now hot husband of 12 years.

You know, I'm motivated by achievement and experience, two of the emotional magnets," and we'll go into that.

he was like, "Okay." And, uh, I said, "And you?" You know? And ever since, we've been honoring that in each other.
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Stop Labeling People By Behavior
Ask what emotional need drives difficult behavior
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