Jun 25, 2026 · 1 hr 37 min · 14 segments
Episode 532 / Koak Koak is an artist born in Lansing, MI who earned her BFA and MFA from California College of the Arts. In 2025, Koak was the subject of a solo exhibition at Charleston, Lewes, UK…
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I mean, there's always, you know, I think...
Yeah.
Remember when people were like, TV, like Nam June Paik was like the Antichrist.
I find it strange.
I mean, artists are such creative people, but I think a lot of times, you know, I know a lot of people that get kind of set in these viewpoints of like...
these are the things that are real art and these other things aren't real art and it's just i i feel like i want to like i want to know how to do every tool like i just anything i could try it's like why wouldn't you want to try that it will change it will change how you paint like
you know when i draw an ipad it changes the way i paint when i'm you know it things cross over like they cross over all the time when i do sculpture stuff there's things that that come from making sculpture that apply back to the painting.
It's all cyclical.
Yeah, I don't like
Look, you can argue whether it's good or you like it or you think it's like relevant or if it's
deep.
Yeah.
Like you
I mean, there's always, you know, I think...
Yeah.
Remember when people were like, TV, like Nam June Paik was like the Antichrist.
I find it strange.
I mean, artists are such creative people, but I think a lot of times, you know, I know a lot of people that get kind of set in these viewpoints of like...
these are the things that are real art and these other things aren't real art and it's just i i feel like i want to like i want to know how to do every tool like i just anything i could try it's like why wouldn't you want to try that it will change it will change how you paint like
you know when i draw an ipad it changes the way i paint when i'm you know it things cross over like they cross over all the time when i do sculpture stuff there's things that that come from making sculpture that apply back to the painting.
It's all cyclical.
Yeah, I don't like
Look, you can argue whether it's good or you like it or you think it's like relevant or if it's
deep.
Yeah.
Like you
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