Jul 15, 2026 · 26 min · 8 segments
This week on Sonder, Rosie & Joss are back for a catch-up, chatting all about what they have been up to over the last month. There is, of course, TV and book chat and a deep dive into their love for…
Joss StewardsonHost
Rosie RussellHost

But I've done the two seasons, and if you've not watched Rivals and want to, um, maybe just skip this little bit, 'cause we're probably gonna say some spoilers and things like that.

I know you recommended it, and I had been meaning to get around to watching it.

I finally did, and I like how the story develops and how it all starts building.

I, as soon as I finished that episode, I text Joss and went, "When's the next lot coming out? Because not happy with that ending." [laughs]

Rivals by the late, it was original book written by the late, great Jilly Cooper, who I am a huge fan of.

Um, and if you asked the people that me and Rosie work with a lot, they'd all say the same, "God, Jilly Cooper, we are obsessed with Jilly Cooper." But so Rivals is the second book in The Ructures Chronicles, um, which starts, which starts with Riders, based on the showjumping world.

And then she's written 13 books all set in Ructures, which is the Cotswolds.

But Rivals is probably the best book that they've, uh, and then they've adapted it.

Um, but also I think the best bit about it are the relationships people, um, develop.

Um, it's a hard one, because I feel like they've all got, they all have negative elements.

Do you know what I mean? But also some very positive ones that you can't help but love.


But I've done the two seasons, and if you've not watched Rivals and want to, um, maybe just skip this little bit, 'cause we're probably gonna say some spoilers and things like that.

I know you recommended it, and I had been meaning to get around to watching it.

I finally did, and I like how the story develops and how it all starts building.

I, as soon as I finished that episode, I text Joss and went, "When's the next lot coming out? Because not happy with that ending." [laughs]

Rivals by the late, it was original book written by the late, great Jilly Cooper, who I am a huge fan of.

Um, and if you asked the people that me and Rosie work with a lot, they'd all say the same, "God, Jilly Cooper, we are obsessed with Jilly Cooper." But so Rivals is the second book in The Ructures Chronicles, um, which starts, which starts with Riders, based on the showjumping world.

And then she's written 13 books all set in Ructures, which is the Cotswolds.

But Rivals is probably the best book that they've, uh, and then they've adapted it.

Um, but also I think the best bit about it are the relationships people, um, develop.

Um, it's a hard one, because I feel like they've all got, they all have negative elements.

Do you know what I mean? But also some very positive ones that you can't help but love.
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