Join me for a conversation with Emer Pond Feeney and Sheila Liming about Wallace Stegner's 1984 novel, Crossing to Safety. Emer and Sheila describe their experience becoming friends online during the Covid pandemic, even though they lived only a few miles from one another in Vermont, before eventually bonding in person. One early testament to their connection was their shared love for Stegner's novel, which is also a book suffused with love for the state of Vermont. Our conversation about Crossing the Safety provides an opportunity to think about friendship and reading, about living in a place that you love, about what it means to find your people at different stages in your life. Sheila, who literally wrote the book on hanging out, and Emer have both thought deeply about the life-defining pleasures of friendship; I found this conversation to be so much fun.