Jun 26, 2026 · 27 min · 11 segments
Autonomous systems are already moving into the physical world. Drones can fly themselves, robot taxis are carrying passengers, and AI systems are taking more action without direct human control. Chad…
Chad ButlerGuest
Adam RothHost
Joe PattiHost
It was at AWS doing product security and an opening came up to lead security for Primair, the drone delivery program.

At the time, what we thought was that we were going to launch imminently and that I was going to build a program to make sure that everything was going to be secure.

And that included everything from the traditional kind of cloud security aspect of, you know, how do you run all of the routing and the delivery stuff that has to happen in the cloud to what's actually running on the drone itself, the hardware, as well as the software.

And then the compliance aspect of how do we comply with an FAA rule, which has not been made yet.

You know, how do we look around the corner and try to figure out what they're going to expect? And so that's, that was kind of my involvement.

You know, there was autonomous drones, but then self-driving vehicles, autonomous vehicles, that's very similar.

And now with AI, we see a lot of the same things, right? With agents doing things that humans used to do.

And so that was kind of the, the landscape of, of where this sort of resurfaced for me.

It was at AWS doing product security and an opening came up to lead security for Primair, the drone delivery program.

At the time, what we thought was that we were going to launch imminently and that I was going to build a program to make sure that everything was going to be secure.

And that included everything from the traditional kind of cloud security aspect of, you know, how do you run all of the routing and the delivery stuff that has to happen in the cloud to what's actually running on the drone itself, the hardware, as well as the software.

And then the compliance aspect of how do we comply with an FAA rule, which has not been made yet.

You know, how do we look around the corner and try to figure out what they're going to expect? And so that's, that was kind of my involvement.

You know, there was autonomous drones, but then self-driving vehicles, autonomous vehicles, that's very similar.

And now with AI, we see a lot of the same things, right? With agents doing things that humans used to do.

And so that was kind of the, the landscape of, of where this sort of resurfaced for me.
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