\# Speed, governance and a changing landscape — Ramsés Gallego
**Special: Live from CybersecNL — Episode 1 of 7**
Recorded live at the Atos booth, CybersecNL 2026. Ramsés Gallego
is Chief Technologist at DXC, ISACA Hall of Fame, and president of
the ISACA Barcelona chapter. Hosted by Menno van der Horst with
Quint Ketting.
\## Timestamps
00:00 Welcome and introductions
00:42 Why DXC came to CybersecNL: detect more, respond faster
01:28 Rivals, never enemies — why competitors share a stage
02:24 The other side collaborates better than we do
04:28 What integrators owe their customers: service over technology
06:34 A second risk equation: means, motives, opportunities
07:32 Are our frameworks still fit for purpose?
08:29 COBIT 2019 is ageing, and ISACA's AI certification track
09:53 "The human in the loop is dead" — as a reflex, not as a role
10:35 Quantum: RSA, Diffie-Hellman and elliptic curve on the clock
11:55 The part nobody talks about: code signing and certificates
12:38 ISACA Quantum Pulse Poll — the skills gap in numbers
13:21 It is not IT you are protecting. It is the business.
14:01 Trucks that stop delivering, invoices quietly altered
15:02 Why risk has to come from the business, not only the CISO
16:26 Enterprise risk management: risk is always plural
17:22 Should we still be calling it cybersecurity at all?
18:17 Business continuity is not resilience
18:54 The positive side of risk
19:34 Why a car has brakes
20:22 Three pillars: identity, data, applications
21:51 Non-human identities and the 100-to-1 future
23:18 Governance is not management, and we need AI-natives
\## Key takeaways
\- The classic risk equation still holds, but means, motives and
opportunities now sits next to it. AI has collapsed the cost of
all three.
\- Business first. Customers do not speak Kubernetes, they speak
euros. The database was not hacked — the business was.
\- Identity remains the cornerstone. Two of the three major
incidents discussed on the CybersecNL main stage were identity
related.
\- Non-human identity is the governance problem of the next few
years. Almost nobody can say how many agents they run, let
alone which accounts sit behind them.
\- Quantum is not only an encryption story. Code signing,
certificates and anything that depends on keeping a secret are
in scope.
\- Brakes let you go fast. Security exists so the business can
move, not so it can stop.
\- Ramsés states that ISACA is already building COBIT 7, returning
to a numbered release. Not independently confirmed at the time
of publishing.
\- The 10-to-1 non-human to human identity ratio, and the
projected 100-to-1, are cited from industry statistics and not
sourced on air.
\- The 5-to-12-year window for cryptographically relevant quantum
computing is Ramsés' own estimate.
\- ISACA Quantum Pulse Poll figures (2,586 respondents, 67 percent
expecting new skill requirements) are quoted from memory.
\## Mentioned
ISACA — https://www.isaca.org
DXC Technology — https://dxc.com
Quantum World Association
The brakes analogy is credited to Art Wong.
\## Also in this series
Martin de Vries on sector differences and why we may need a
NIST 3 — referenced in this episode, publishing 24 September.
Aernout Reijmer on collaboration after ASML — publishing
29 September.
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