May 29, 2026 · 38 min · 10 segments
In this episode of the SCP Podcast, we sit down with Ryne Sherman, Chief Science Officer at Hogan Assessments, for a timely conversation on AI, leadership assessment, and the future of consulting…
Ryne ShermanGuest
Daniel OgunyemiHost
Yeah, no, you're absolutely right, Daniel, that anybody can make a personality assessment.
You know, it's interesting, and I don't know if it would be better for worse, but in the United States and in many countries around the world, if you wanted to make some sort of a drug, you have to get approval from the FDA, right? You have to do testing.
There's no such regulating body for personality assessments, so anybody can make a personality assessment.
And With AI today, it's very easy for people just to whip a bunch of items together and say, hey, here's a personality assessment.
I think the thing that sets Hogan apart, and this is the thing that I think most people would tell you, is our commitment to science.
These are people who are, some of them are former professors, some of them, you know, all of them got their PhDs in either IO or quantitative psychology or personality psychology.
they work every day to try to improve our assessments, to try to make our assessments better.
Many assessment companies build an assessment, get rid of their scientists, or they'll just pay a scientist to build the assessment for them and then say, okay, we don't need to pay you anymore, go away.
This is borrows from the Japanese word Kai and Zen, which basically means continuous improvement.
I mean, it's a good change is sort of the literal interpretation, but we refer to it as continuous improvement that we want to continuously improve our psychometrics, continuously improve our assessments.
One example I can give of that is in 2019, we built the best personality psychology norm in the world, global norm.
Most representative of the global working population ever created anywhere in the world.
Yeah, no, you're absolutely right, Daniel, that anybody can make a personality assessment.
You know, it's interesting, and I don't know if it would be better for worse, but in the United States and in many countries around the world, if you wanted to make some sort of a drug, you have to get approval from the FDA, right? You have to do testing.
There's no such regulating body for personality assessments, so anybody can make a personality assessment.
And With AI today, it's very easy for people just to whip a bunch of items together and say, hey, here's a personality assessment.
I think the thing that sets Hogan apart, and this is the thing that I think most people would tell you, is our commitment to science.
These are people who are, some of them are former professors, some of them, you know, all of them got their PhDs in either IO or quantitative psychology or personality psychology.
they work every day to try to improve our assessments, to try to make our assessments better.
Many assessment companies build an assessment, get rid of their scientists, or they'll just pay a scientist to build the assessment for them and then say, okay, we don't need to pay you anymore, go away.
This is borrows from the Japanese word Kai and Zen, which basically means continuous improvement.
I mean, it's a good change is sort of the literal interpretation, but we refer to it as continuous improvement that we want to continuously improve our psychometrics, continuously improve our assessments.
One example I can give of that is in 2019, we built the best personality psychology norm in the world, global norm.
Most representative of the global working population ever created anywhere in the world.
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