Saturday Extra - Separate stories podcast
Oct 9, 2026 · 13 min · 9 segments
AI data centre operator Firmus has pulled out of what would have been one of Australia's largest public listings. So how did the hype fall so flat?
Paul BarryHost

But that's the capital expenditure that's being put in to try and earn that money.
You have to put an investment in place now, hopefully for the returns to come down the line.
I mean, three years ago, that $150 billion of money we spend now on Chachiputi and Claude was basically zero.
And if we expect that to continue to grow, well, some of that investment right now can make sense, does make sense.


But that's the capital expenditure that's being put in to try and earn that money.
You have to put an investment in place now, hopefully for the returns to come down the line.
I mean, three years ago, that $150 billion of money we spend now on Chachiputi and Claude was basically zero.
And if we expect that to continue to grow, well, some of that investment right now can make sense, does make sense.
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