Sage Against The Machine Podcast
Oct 9, 2026 · 1 hr 12 min · 12 segments
Winning elections starts with listening to working people, understanding what they’re dealing with, and offering real solutions. That was the focus of our latest episode of *The Sage Against the…
Bob LeonardHostJennifer KirkmanGuest
Brian MeyerGuestRob Sand and Zach Lane met Tuesday night in Davenport for their first debate of the governor race.
The debate covered the proposed $15 billion Lee County steel plant that we just talked about with Jennifer.
Brian talked about education, affordability, agriculture, water quality, cancer, property taxes, and economic development.
Lane emphasized his business and farming background and presented himself as a political advocate.
Bob, tell me what were your first thoughts when it came to the debate, what you saw, what you heard, what you've heard afterwards, obviously the follow-ups to what are your thoughts?

You know, he apparently, somebody else said this first, but he adopted the Trump style of talking over everybody and acting like the big hot shot.

He's, you know, he's pulling what a lot of Republicans do all the time or poor me, what Trump does all the time.
Rob Sand and Zach Lane met Tuesday night in Davenport for their first debate of the governor race.
The debate covered the proposed $15 billion Lee County steel plant that we just talked about with Jennifer.
Brian talked about education, affordability, agriculture, water quality, cancer, property taxes, and economic development.
Lane emphasized his business and farming background and presented himself as a political advocate.
Bob, tell me what were your first thoughts when it came to the debate, what you saw, what you heard, what you've heard afterwards, obviously the follow-ups to what are your thoughts?

You know, he apparently, somebody else said this first, but he adopted the Trump style of talking over everybody and acting like the big hot shot.

He's, you know, he's pulling what a lot of Republicans do all the time or poor me, what Trump does all the time.
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