Jul 9, 2026 · 37 min · 13 segments
Most B2B companies are running inbound and outbound because they're comfortable, measurable, and feel like a spreadsheet they already know. That's exactly why the motion that creates the biggest deal…
Sangram VajreGuest
David WalshHost
So where do we want to start? I think firstly, you've got GTMOS here on your top.

Well, I mean, you know, some might say I need a therapy session to go to, right? Like this might be the therapy session that we all have been waiting for.

Which is after building two SaaS companies, I think at 2021, I was a little bit burnt out.

And Brian, who's my co-founder now, we both wrote a book called Move, which became a Wall Street Journal bestseller in 2021.

We had this really interesting conversations like, what if we didn't build a SaaS business again? What would it look like? And we said, well, let's just do something.

But we've written so much about go-to-market built, like lived go-to-market for two decades.

We are not going to go on a beach somewhere, like, you know, and retire, like, you know, two weeks.

My wife was like, what are you doing? Like, just get out of the house and do something.

So we were like back into like, what are we going to do? And we started doing some fractional work, some consulting work with knowing the book and all the thing it has done and immediately realized that there is really no framework that existed that helped understand how to think about go to market.

This will be my 10th year speaking at Inbound, which is now Unbound Conference in Boston.

I'll ask a room like, how do you define go to market? Who owns go to market? There'll be thousands of answers.

So it forced us to create a framework called GTMOS, which is go to market operating system.

And it really has eight pillars and it really is what actually makes it all work.

As you're talking about that, I'm like the amount of marketing leaders that we speak with.

And a lot of these marketing folks are trying to generate brand awareness and also on the demand gen side.

So where do we want to start? I think firstly, you've got GTMOS here on your top.

Well, I mean, you know, some might say I need a therapy session to go to, right? Like this might be the therapy session that we all have been waiting for.

Which is after building two SaaS companies, I think at 2021, I was a little bit burnt out.

And Brian, who's my co-founder now, we both wrote a book called Move, which became a Wall Street Journal bestseller in 2021.

We had this really interesting conversations like, what if we didn't build a SaaS business again? What would it look like? And we said, well, let's just do something.

But we've written so much about go-to-market built, like lived go-to-market for two decades.

We are not going to go on a beach somewhere, like, you know, and retire, like, you know, two weeks.

My wife was like, what are you doing? Like, just get out of the house and do something.

So we were like back into like, what are we going to do? And we started doing some fractional work, some consulting work with knowing the book and all the thing it has done and immediately realized that there is really no framework that existed that helped understand how to think about go to market.

This will be my 10th year speaking at Inbound, which is now Unbound Conference in Boston.

I'll ask a room like, how do you define go to market? Who owns go to market? There'll be thousands of answers.

So it forced us to create a framework called GTMOS, which is go to market operating system.

And it really has eight pillars and it really is what actually makes it all work.

As you're talking about that, I'm like the amount of marketing leaders that we speak with.

And a lot of these marketing folks are trying to generate brand awareness and also on the demand gen side.
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