May 5, 2026 · 41 min · 18 segments
Everything changes the moment you stop doing the work and start managing it. In this episode, I sit down with Ashley Herd to unpack what really happens when high performers step into leadership and…
Mo BunnellHost
Well, you know, I always like starting with, like, "Hey, why is this important?" Like, we gotta grab people's attention.

But from your perspective, why do you see the, the learning of the skill of managing is so important so that people can climb up to be able to win the business they want, do our higher stakes projects, matters, whatever the, whatever people purchase for them? Why is this, like, this skill of learning management really important, and what, what gets in the way?

Well, you know, I always like starting with, like, "Hey, why is this important?" Like, we gotta grab people's attention.

But from your perspective, why do you see the, the learning of the skill of managing is so important so that people can climb up to be able to win the business they want, do our higher stakes projects, matters, whatever the, whatever people purchase for them? Why is this, like, this skill of learning management really important, and what, what gets in the way?
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