Challenging Beliefs without Challenging Faith with Dr. Stevan Lars Nielsen

Are there any other additional resources that you, that you wanna point people who are interested in learning more about any of the stuff we've touched on?

Uh, well, yeah, I, I, I think that the supervis- the super- uh, the, the primary practicum and the advanced practicum at the Albert Ellis Institute in New York City is some of the best supervised training anyone will ever get.

And here's the reason.

You get very direct instruction from the institute faculty, and then you get very direct supervised experience in these little mini bouts of psychotherapy.

So if you, if you go to the institute or you go to one of their... or you do one of their video programs, then you're gonna get-- you're gonna find yourself doing...

Let me see.

You're gonna find yourself doing eight sessions, mini sessions of 10 to 15 minutes, and receiving eight mini sessions of 10 to 15 minutes of REBT, and you're gonna have supervision.

You're gonna see supervision for all of those mini sessions.

That's just about the best way to learn to do psychotherapy, is to have experts watch it along with other learners, who are not novices at doing psychotherapy, 'cause none of them, none of them are novices.

To have them watch and show you and explain to you how to do it.

That's the way to learn to do rationally motivated behavior therapy.

Uh, and then I would read, um, I'd read my book.

I think my book is a, is a nice introduction to rationally emotive therapy, as well as in rationally emotive behavior therapy, as well as a nice introduction to rationally emotive behavior therapy, religious rationally emotive behavior therapy.

And, and, and, and, and it gives you an outline for how you do a session.

And there are between seven and 10 steps you can do in every REBT session that will keep you on track with your client.

And the first step is, "Well, wait, what is it you want help with here?" And that can reorient the session.

That's one of the most valuable things to say in any psychotherapy session.

"Wait, what is it you want help with here?" 'Cause I'm getting a little lost.

I wanna give you what you want in this session.

Another excellent book to read is any book by, uh, Ray DiGiuseppe.

He's the director of training at the Albert Ellis Institute.

I'm not gonna take time to pull one down, but he's, he's written an excellent handbook on, on doing rationally emotive behavior therapy.

And it, it goes through and shows you the steps of what to do in a session, talks about differences.

I did wanna say this one thing about a difference between cognitive therapy and rationally emotive behavior therapy.

So I heard, I heard, um, Aaron Beck say this, and I've heard many other cognitive therapists.