62. The Five-Figure Decision. The psychology of risk taking with Niki Hutchison and Leila Ainge

I love that.

And I think there's something that sits there for me then, which feels like it helps us to understand where we get advice from and how we implement that.

Because I think a lot of the criticism that comes for maybe the coaching industry and mentoring is you'll often hear people say, you know, you want somebody who understands you or somebody who's just a little bit further ahead from you or not too far.

And what I'm hearing from you is that actually that's probably not what matters.

What matters is being able to put yourself in those shoes, is to have that kind of different perspective taking.

But more than that, it's an awareness of where you are as a provider as well.

And that feels really curious to me because...

Isn't that just easy to work with? Yeah, exactly.

And also

accepting that your risks will not always pay off in the way that you expect.

So you've mentioned this already.

I invest a lot in my business and myself as a result of that.

But it's always business focused.

And not all of those investments have paid off in the way that I expected them to.

But I have always got something from them every single time because I make sure of it.

So there's one example where I didn't know, you might know the name for this, Leela.

I didn't know that this was a sales method, but I, this person, this big name coach had been on my radar.

This was probably back, I don't know, five years ago at least.

And this person had been on my radar and I'd kind of thought, oh, maybe I'll work with them one day.

And then I saw them record a video and it was on a specific day that meant something to them.

And they recorded this video in tears.

Oh, wow.

And they were talking about the grief that they were feeling.

And immediately I was like, I kind of went into rescuer mode

or something.