Aug 14, 2026 · 55 min · 17 segments
Thule Lenneiye is a Zimbabwean- Kenyan food systems, climate action and digital transformation expert, and Chief of Staff at AGRA. This conversation looks at why Africa’s food challenge is not only…
Thule LenneiyeGuest
Waweru NjorogeHost
[transition sound] So, i-- there's been a shift in the ecosystem, w- in certain, uh, sectors of the ecosystem, that national security is food security, or food security is national security.

Um, if there is a sudden drought or floods, communities do have to move because it is about survival, right? And if now there's clashes based on that, we've seen the clashes based on access to water.

It's meant to enable your, uh, your, your agriculture product to survive, your family to thrive.

Um, so in general, I think now we should be now viewing food security as national security.

So [transition sound] food security is often framed as a problem of agricultural production, where when food becomes unaffordable, when harvest cannot reach markets, or when countries depend on fragile external supply routes, the consequences can become economic, political, and strategic.

Her career has crossed technology, government delivery, agricultural investment, climate resilience, and continental food system leadership.

Before joining AGRA's senior leadership, she coordinated Kenya's Agricultural Transformation office.

Today, we ask what it means to treat food as national security, what Africa must build to feed itself more reliably, and how the continent can work with the world without surrendering control of its food systems.


This is the podcast where we unpack power, policy people, and the paradoxes that define our time, with nuance, with history, and with a deliberate commitment to context.
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