True Crime and the Mandela Baby

[upbeat music] Look, the fan's blowing on me.

Yeah.

I look like I'm on stage performing.

You were on stage.

I was on stage?

Last week.

Oh.

When I solo podcasted.

Well, yeah.

Is that still under wraps?

It's still under wraps.

Got it.

Okay.

Uh-

We'll unveil when it's appropriate.

We'll unveil, next week we'll be able to unveil-

Next week

...

if everything continues on the schedule, I was told.

Okay.

Cool.

Uh, but yeah, I was gone last week.

Thank you for being kind about, you know, me bailing.

Yeah.

I got a really, really cool opportunity, and it was so last minute.

Yeah.

I had to book a flight and skedaddle on out of Arkansas.

You booked your flight and hotel two days before you left?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Something like that.

Okay.

And it was really cool.

I've never been on a set before.

Yeah.

And that was an experience.

I am no actress.

That is what we learned.

Yeah.

And that's all of the teasers I'll tell you-

[laughs]

... is if when you see what you're going to see, you're like, "Joe, this is so embarrassing," don't tell me.

I'm not trying to pursue it.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that's not a career path.

You're like, "Oh, this is gonna launch my commercial acting."

No, it was-

No

... never gonna happen.

No.

I don't really have an interest in acting.

You can make ...

I mean, again, commercials, I think, is how you make money as an actor before you, like, really make it.

I'm not good.

What do you mean you're not good? Elaborate.

I'm not good on a, on camera.

[laughs]

I panic.

I'm not good.

Elaborate.

Like, I-

I'm not good in front of camera.

[laughs]

[laughs] Well, let's say the line is, uh, I don't know.

Give me a line.

You're getting h- yeah, you get in your head about how you-

Yeah, like give me a line.

You have a t-

Any line.

Is it that you have a tough time getting into character?

Is it that you have a tough time getting into character?

Oh, okay.

[laughs]

Yes.

Yes.

It's not even that I have a tough time, uh, getting into character.

It's that when I have to deliver the line, no matter what I do, it will sound cheesy.

Really?

Yeah, like I'm like, "Hello.

Welcome to my home."

[laughs]

Like, like I [laughs] ...

You're right, that didn't feel organic.

No, nothing about it.

Mm-hmm.

I cannot seem natural to save my life.

Which is so funny given what your career of choice is.

I can talk on a podcast-

Yeah

... like this.

I can have a conversation.

I don't mind having cameras-

You're fine filming yourself

... around me.

Yeah.

But when I have to deliver lines, and there's a specific thing that I have to do, it's immediately I'm out.

I hear you.

So.

I've, I've seen it in action.

It's always a little surprising.

Me?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Why is it surprising?

You just, you, you do struggle with it.

Like-

Struggle feels strong because-

You're not bad, I'm not saying you're bad at it, but it's not-

No, no, no, no

...

it does not come naturally to you.

I'm saying I'm bad at it.

Gotcha.

I don't disagree with that.

I'm just saying, like, I don't even think I'd say I struggle with it because I just know I'm bad, and that's [laughs] there's not a lot of struggle.

Okay.

It's just failure.

It's not failure.

It's not that bad.

But you really don't ...

It's tough for you to read lines.

Yeah, I'm not good at it.

Which is fine.

That's not part of your gig.

No.

So not a scripted gal.

Not a scripted gal, but I had a great trip.

If I end up absolutely embarrassing myself, that's what it is, and it's fine.

I had a lot of fun.

It'll be cool regardless.

I was really glad I got to do it, and now we're back to normal doing the last couple days of summer.