Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary
Oct 6, 2026 · 50 min · 16 segments
Dr Eugene Manley grew up in Detroit in the 1980s cycling through emergency rooms 20 to 30 times a year with asthma and anaphylaxis while hospital staff talked past his family and buried them in…
Eugene ManleyGuestUm, you, you, uh, in your, your bio, your credentials, STEM is two Ms. I've heard of STEAM, which my kids are in, in high school.

It's, you know, you're just trying to get kids engaged in science and other aspects.

Do you need the A? Eh, you know, depends on what you're doing, but that's really what the second M means.

And so, but a lot of the work I do with the nonprofit is trying to get more diverse kids into STEM fields.

One, well, letting one know they can go into these fields, two, helping them navigate those degrees and degree transitions through mentorship and training, so we can get them in the workforce.

So then al- we can have more people that can do work that impacts underserved and marginalized populations, 'cause they often are the ones that are most excluded from the workforce and care delivery and care decisions.
I mean, I wasn't surprised by what I read on, uh, in some of your content, medical racism, it's there.
... with, with the, all the white guys that th- they know better than everyone.
Um, you, you, uh, in your, your bio, your credentials, STEM is two Ms. I've heard of STEAM, which my kids are in, in high school.

It's, you know, you're just trying to get kids engaged in science and other aspects.

Do you need the A? Eh, you know, depends on what you're doing, but that's really what the second M means.

And so, but a lot of the work I do with the nonprofit is trying to get more diverse kids into STEM fields.

One, well, letting one know they can go into these fields, two, helping them navigate those degrees and degree transitions through mentorship and training, so we can get them in the workforce.

So then al- we can have more people that can do work that impacts underserved and marginalized populations, 'cause they often are the ones that are most excluded from the workforce and care delivery and care decisions.
I mean, I wasn't surprised by what I read on, uh, in some of your content, medical racism, it's there.
... with, with the, all the white guys that th- they know better than everyone.
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