Martin JonesHost
So I'm a bit uncomfortable sometimes when people are asking me about supplement, whatever.

And there was a time when I would maybe answer, well, what's the harm? Just try it.

What's the harm? But is there any harm in some of this stuff? Maybe there's not evidence that it necessarily works per se, but there's also the idea of, well, let's just try it.

If you were to answer that question, is there any harm in just trying these things out? It's a great question.
But if you don't have the curiosity to try some of these new interventions, then you could be missing out.
And especially in a high performance setting, you know, marginal gains is so important.
That extra 1%, that extra 0.1% is a highly sought after commodity, right? So everything, whether it works or whether it may work is thrown into the melting pot of possibilities, right? So superficially, there is no harm in trying a lot of these things until there is harm.
So for example, if you try a supplement with no active ingredient, okay, and it doesn't deliver on its promises, then you haven't lost a great deal other than the expense of buying the thing in the first place.
Maybe your urine will get temporarily more expensive because you're paying most of the stuff out down the toilet.
But in some scenarios, if you're using what I refer to as a placebo-based product and a lot of supplements fall within that category, there can be a risk of harm.
There are lots of cases of, you know, in the UK, for example, ZOE 30 Plus Daily, which is quite a popular daily supplement, was taken off the shelves in as recent as 2024 because the thing contained small stones and heavy metals.
If you look at mainstream products like Herbalife, they're among the supplements that are most often associated with liver toxicity because people don't follow the recommendations on how much to take.
People are taking supplements more often than not that they don't actually need.

So I'm a bit uncomfortable sometimes when people are asking me about supplement, whatever.

And there was a time when I would maybe answer, well, what's the harm? Just try it.

What's the harm? But is there any harm in some of this stuff? Maybe there's not evidence that it necessarily works per se, but there's also the idea of, well, let's just try it.

If you were to answer that question, is there any harm in just trying these things out? It's a great question.
But if you don't have the curiosity to try some of these new interventions, then you could be missing out.
And especially in a high performance setting, you know, marginal gains is so important.
That extra 1%, that extra 0.1% is a highly sought after commodity, right? So everything, whether it works or whether it may work is thrown into the melting pot of possibilities, right? So superficially, there is no harm in trying a lot of these things until there is harm.
So for example, if you try a supplement with no active ingredient, okay, and it doesn't deliver on its promises, then you haven't lost a great deal other than the expense of buying the thing in the first place.
Maybe your urine will get temporarily more expensive because you're paying most of the stuff out down the toilet.
But in some scenarios, if you're using what I refer to as a placebo-based product and a lot of supplements fall within that category, there can be a risk of harm.
There are lots of cases of, you know, in the UK, for example, ZOE 30 Plus Daily, which is quite a popular daily supplement, was taken off the shelves in as recent as 2024 because the thing contained small stones and heavy metals.
If you look at mainstream products like Herbalife, they're among the supplements that are most often associated with liver toxicity because people don't follow the recommendations on how much to take.
People are taking supplements more often than not that they don't actually need.
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