Jul 22, 2026 · 48 min · 13 segments
What if the very qualities that make you exceptional are also putting your long-term health and career at risk? In this episode of the *Optimising Human Performance Podcast*, Martin Jones sits down…
Martin JonesHost
I'd like to start with something that I've noticed in high pressure workplaces, and that's that some people can almost lose the ability to recognize when they're running on empty.

I've had times when I've maybe asked them, like, "How are you?" And you know, they'll say, "I'm fine." And then six months later, the wheels have just come off.

Is there anything that, that you've noticed that these people tend to ignore at the cost of their longevity maybe?
One that comes to mind among many is the difference between being rested and giving effort.
And so for many really high performing people, they can continue to give effort in spite of many and sometimes all factors working against them, and I think that's actually a defining quality of the highest performing people, is that they can disregard any information that doesn't contribute to the successful outcome that they have chosen.
If you can't do that, you don't actually accomplish very much because more noise gets in and it's harder to sustain a direct focus.
And so that's an implicit part and parcel of performing extremely well, is to be able to continue to give focus and effort in spite of fill in the blank.
That's not the same thing as being rested or managing fatigue well or managing stress well.
And I use fiduciary analogies a lot, like this is like money, and it's kind of like a person can be in debt for a long time before creditors finally knock on their door and go, "Hey, you owe us.
And all this interest, by the way, has built up." So it's not just the original cost, but it's all the interest and then all the stuff that you spent money on while you owed, and now all of that is today.
And you say, "Well, I only actually spent 500 quid 10 years ago." And they're like, "Well, now that we've added all the interest and the extra expenses, well, now it's 5 million, and it's today." And that happens as familial breakdown, addiction.
For men, it's often cardiac trouble, right? That ends up being like the moment of like, "Boy, no matter what I do, when I wake up in the morning, my heart is beating 100 beats a minute." And that's essentially the nervous system is finally like, "I'm collecting your debt today." And it feels like all the sudden, but really it's the signal that was coming through wasn't loud enough for a person who's good at ignoring noise.
So if you're really good at ignoring noise and you practice it, more and more things start to be recognized as noise, even if they're not.

I'd like to start with something that I've noticed in high pressure workplaces, and that's that some people can almost lose the ability to recognize when they're running on empty.

I've had times when I've maybe asked them, like, "How are you?" And you know, they'll say, "I'm fine." And then six months later, the wheels have just come off.

Is there anything that, that you've noticed that these people tend to ignore at the cost of their longevity maybe?
One that comes to mind among many is the difference between being rested and giving effort.
And so for many really high performing people, they can continue to give effort in spite of many and sometimes all factors working against them, and I think that's actually a defining quality of the highest performing people, is that they can disregard any information that doesn't contribute to the successful outcome that they have chosen.
If you can't do that, you don't actually accomplish very much because more noise gets in and it's harder to sustain a direct focus.
And so that's an implicit part and parcel of performing extremely well, is to be able to continue to give focus and effort in spite of fill in the blank.
That's not the same thing as being rested or managing fatigue well or managing stress well.
And I use fiduciary analogies a lot, like this is like money, and it's kind of like a person can be in debt for a long time before creditors finally knock on their door and go, "Hey, you owe us.
And all this interest, by the way, has built up." So it's not just the original cost, but it's all the interest and then all the stuff that you spent money on while you owed, and now all of that is today.
And you say, "Well, I only actually spent 500 quid 10 years ago." And they're like, "Well, now that we've added all the interest and the extra expenses, well, now it's 5 million, and it's today." And that happens as familial breakdown, addiction.
For men, it's often cardiac trouble, right? That ends up being like the moment of like, "Boy, no matter what I do, when I wake up in the morning, my heart is beating 100 beats a minute." And that's essentially the nervous system is finally like, "I'm collecting your debt today." And it feels like all the sudden, but really it's the signal that was coming through wasn't loud enough for a person who's good at ignoring noise.
So if you're really good at ignoring noise and you practice it, more and more things start to be recognized as noise, even if they're not.
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